@harry, I think Joseph's big problem was explaining his young wife's story to his friends. "Yeah, OK, OK Joseph, whatever you say, she's a virgin, now can you make those repairs to my stable?"
(Thus leading to the towns' first use of the exclamation: JESUS, MARY, JOSEPH!!!!, just said in aggravated disgust in reference to the whole family.)
As far as too big to fail goes, it goes without saying that it has to begin with too big to exist. I feel that we on the side of the people, have missed an opportunity to cast this in basic terms, and not with these often used phrases.
In my mind, any single NGO that is large enough that it has the ability to negatively influence or bring about the collapse of the foundations of American life and existence, is simply put: un-American. No private enterprise needs or should have this level of influence on every American. The founders didn't establish our form of government so that "We the people" would be subject to the outcomes and side-effects of any private action or sets of actions.
I believe there should be a call for Congress to investigate this idea and develop appropriate legislation to protect Americans from overly influential and possibly predatory NGO's so that we the people are protected from the recent unnatural disasters inflicted upon our nation. Suggested approaches might be to measure assets or income relative to GDP or other common statistic.
Casting this issue as un-American properly recognizes the real, unnecessary, and potential impact that exists today, and reinforces that we are a nation of citizens. Passing this legislation would be the will of the people, and legitimate under our right of self-government.
@rladlof, heck I think having to deal with a son that thought he was the son of God would have been enough to deify her... just imagine the teenage year arguments? Who do you think came up with the exclamation "JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!"? As well as the retort "MARY MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!". (I believe it was said sarcastically too)
Well,it's good to see the Prez with s..t on his face.He knew better but just for the "political win" & to quiet the GOP he authorized offshore drilling just a month ago.
Well,it's also an indication of poor leadership,the Prez has "no position" on anything,he will flip-flop in a "New York" second if an event casts him in a good political light.
The Oil Prez didn't go for further offshore drilling,but there was Obama doing what GWBush didn't do.
Does that mean Fed4Point, that you refuse to use products from these corporations? Meaning, in the case of the oil leak, that you don't use a car or every put gas in one?
For all I can figure out, the “Virgin” (untouched by man) Mary was the last person to get away with “It’s immaculate” . . . More than enough reason to deify the young woman.
In Jewish thought, the Nevi’im (Prophets) were speakers of eternal truths to current social issues of the time they lived in NOT chicken bone-throwing prognosticators foretelling magical fantasy. So Isaiah was issuing public commentary by stating that the lowliest among us could grow up to be President . . . OOPS! Sorry . . . Anointed . . . AND (mis)translators spiced up the story (either intentionally or unintentionally) by turning a young (unwed) pregnant woman into a clean Petri dish for god growth.
This would mean that early Christian leaders intentionally took a mundane life-cycle story and hyped it up for consumption by the Greeks and Romans who followed the more expensive, established, magic-oriented, local myths of the times. In both Rome and Greece, taxes were collected by patronizing deities and public works were funded by religious factions to each groups’ desired specifications. SO in short Caesar Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus (Constantine as he is popularly known) was simply bowing to the socio-economic truth of the time when he took Rome Catholic . . .
Oh course, this means that one would have to subscribe to the overly jaded concept that Public Relations IS everything in Religion Marketing.
I don't know if I have this right, but I understand that Obama has suspended his oil drilling expansion program because of this Oil Ejection on the floor of the Gulf.
I think calling it a spill, creates an illusion that only a defined amount can escape.
I decided that no one religion had a lock on the truth. I also found that I did not believe some of the required dogma in the Protestant groups and could no longer repeat creeds, partake of the Eucharist, etc. Besides, like Groucho, I do not like "clubs."
That said, I thought Rachel Maddow's recent interview with singer/activist Sinead O'Connor was fascinating on the subject of the Catholic church and child abuse:
@Quark, I too have shunned organized religion. Originally I just stopped attending Church because it bored me and felt meaningless, as time progressed my cynical side has kept me from any desire to return. I don't trust authoritarians, and Churches seem to be infested with such vermin.
Yes, isn't THAT the truth! (I sometimes think what a stimulating experience Jesus must have had when, as a young man, he used to listen to and argue with the scholars and priests.) Karen Armstrong, a former Catholic nun, says that, at heart, she is Jewish because of her love of scholarship and exchange of ideas. That appeals to me, too, tho I left organized religion a long time ago.
@harry, I think Joseph's big problem was explaining his young wife's story to his friends. "Yeah, OK, OK Joseph, whatever you say, she's a virgin, now can you make those repairs to my stable?"
(Thus leading to the towns' first use of the exclamation: JESUS, MARY, JOSEPH!!!!, just said in aggravated disgust in reference to the whole family.)
N
As far as too big to fail goes, it goes without saying that it has to begin with too big to exist. I feel that we on the side of the people, have missed an opportunity to cast this in basic terms, and not with these often used phrases.
In my mind, any single NGO that is large enough that it has the ability to negatively influence or bring about the collapse of the foundations of American life and existence, is simply put: un-American. No private enterprise needs or should have this level of influence on every American. The founders didn't establish our form of government so that "We the people" would be subject to the outcomes and side-effects of any private action or sets of actions.
I believe there should be a call for Congress to investigate this idea and develop appropriate legislation to protect Americans from overly influential and possibly predatory NGO's so that we the people are protected from the recent unnatural disasters inflicted upon our nation. Suggested approaches might be to measure assets or income relative to GDP or other common statistic.
Casting this issue as un-American properly recognizes the real, unnecessary, and potential impact that exists today, and reinforces that we are a nation of citizens. Passing this legislation would be the will of the people, and legitimate under our right of self-government.
FYA
I think Mary's big problem was explaining to Joseph where Jesus came from.
I've just discovered that when I edit a post it is taken from it's original position and after all previous posts. Dad gum it!
Doh!
@rladlof, heck I think having to deal with a son that thought he was the son of God would have been enough to deify her... just imagine the teenage year arguments? Who do you think came up with the exclamation "JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!"? As well as the retort "MARY MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!". (I believe it was said sarcastically too)
N
@Maxrot: I think the Mysterious Floating Head got it.
My theories about Jesus
His birth was an accident. It was a case of premature immaculation.
@MAXROT RE "harry, what would overthinking be called?"
Richard L. Adlof
harry, what would overthinking be called?
N
Well,it's good to see the Prez with s..t on his face.He knew better but just for the "political win" & to quiet the GOP he authorized offshore drilling just a month ago.
Well,it's also an indication of poor leadership,the Prez has "no position" on anything,he will flip-flop in a "New York" second if an event casts him in a good political light.
The Oil Prez didn't go for further offshore drilling,but there was Obama doing what GWBush didn't do.
Absolutely sickening.
Does that mean Fed4Point, that you refuse to use products from these corporations? Meaning, in the case of the oil leak, that you don't use a car or every put gas in one?
Is overeating "compulsive mastication"?
For all I can figure out, the “Virgin” (untouched by man) Mary was the last person to get away with “It’s immaculate” . . . More than enough reason to deify the young woman.
In Jewish thought, the Nevi’im (Prophets) were speakers of eternal truths to current social issues of the time they lived in NOT chicken bone-throwing prognosticators foretelling magical fantasy. So Isaiah was issuing public commentary by stating that the lowliest among us could grow up to be President . . . OOPS! Sorry . . . Anointed . . . AND (mis)translators spiced up the story (either intentionally or unintentionally) by turning a young (unwed) pregnant woman into a clean Petri dish for god growth.
This would mean that early Christian leaders intentionally took a mundane life-cycle story and hyped it up for consumption by the Greeks and Romans who followed the more expensive, established, magic-oriented, local myths of the times. In both Rome and Greece, taxes were collected by patronizing deities and public works were funded by religious factions to each groups’ desired specifications. SO in short Caesar Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus (Constantine as he is popularly known) was simply bowing to the socio-economic truth of the time when he took Rome Catholic . . .
Oh course, this means that one would have to subscribe to the overly jaded concept that Public Relations IS everything in Religion Marketing.
Wait! What was I typing about . . .
@John Doh! Was God's casting Satan out of heaven Immaculate ejection?
@John Doh! :D
Quark Kool Aid is so last year, Tea is now the politically correct beverage to serve lemmings.
N
Nels,
I enjoy learning from Thom and his guests. However, I still feel free to question them. (I do not like Kool Aid.) ;-)
We don't have to explore; we know where the oil is coming from. Such a deal, eh?
Nels,
"New Offshore Drilling Projects ON HOLD White House says (Video)"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/30/new-offshore-drilling-pro_n_558313.html
@Quark, I am however beginning to feel that joining the Hartman Cult to be very reasonable. (He shoots guns too ;-) )
I don't know if I have this right, but I understand that Obama has suspended his oil drilling expansion program because of this Oil Ejection on the floor of the Gulf.
I think calling it a spill, creates an illusion that only a defined amount can escape.
N
Nels,
I decided that no one religion had a lock on the truth. I also found that I did not believe some of the required dogma in the Protestant groups and could no longer repeat creeds, partake of the Eucharist, etc. Besides, like Groucho, I do not like "clubs."
That said, I thought Rachel Maddow's recent interview with singer/activist Sinead O'Connor was fascinating on the subject of the Catholic church and child abuse:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show#36748468
@Quark, I too have shunned organized religion. Originally I just stopped attending Church because it bored me and felt meaningless, as time progressed my cynical side has kept me from any desire to return. I don't trust authoritarians, and Churches seem to be infested with such vermin.
N
Maxrot,
Yes, isn't THAT the truth! (I sometimes think what a stimulating experience Jesus must have had when, as a young man, he used to listen to and argue with the scholars and priests.) Karen Armstrong, a former Catholic nun, says that, at heart, she is Jewish because of her love of scholarship and exchange of ideas. That appeals to me, too, tho I left organized religion a long time ago.
What can we do to get Sen. Sanders a decent telephone or microphone?