There is an article in WSJ (link below) that tries to defend the Tea party by going deeper into a recent poll to show how the media distorts these people. I think it only shows how discombobulated they are. LOL
The part I like best.....
"A government-run health care plan"--described as socialism by 72%
However....And this is where their minds must completely blow up...
Fewer than 10 percent say the Veterans Administration is definitely socialist, 12 percent identify management of national parks and museums, and 36 percent say expanding Medicare for the elderly, Medicaid for the poor and Social Security amount to socialism.
Socialism vs Privatization
To the folks who think the private sector can always do it better; isn't the Bank bailout, and the need for Health Care reform, examples that the private sector can really mess things up as well. The main difference with the private sector is that a CEO can get really rich screwing things up!
I was listening to Ed Schultz yesterday when a caller began talking about the hate-filled rhetoric on the radio, and she was waiting for the Arbitron ratings to come out on the station she called the worst offender, and her hope that a low-rating would force this hate-filled filth off the air. She identified the station as AM1090, which coincidentally happens be the local progressive talk radio station in Seattle. Schultz cut her off, because he was afraid that he was about to tell her where she could put her observations. It never ceases to amaze me how haters like this caller hate being called haters.
Schultz does have his weaknesses, however. Like Stephanie Miller, who refers to Pat Buchanan as her “daddy,” Schultz has more than a passing fondness for this “friend.” Why is it that so many white people on the left regard this xenophobe and racial bigot a “friend?” This man literally shakes with suppressed rage and hatred on air whenever he defends bigotry or attacks all forms of “multiculturalism.” Is it because he’s “affable” to other white people? Or he is simply stating things that they secretly believe? Last year I wrote a long post detailing just a fraction of Buchanan’s sins, which he habitually spews forth with little push-back. Schultz talked to him yesterday concerning the tea party “movement,” and allowed him to deny, despite all empirical evidence, that social, cultural and racial paranoia motivated in large part this almost wholly white, fringe-right enterprise.
Schultz didn’t ask Buchanan why he defended the tea baggers who acted indecently toward Bob Letcher, a disabled man (Buchanan thought he was deliberately “dragged” there by lefties to cause an embarrassing video bite), nor did he ask him if tea partiers felt they were “marginalized,” why they didn’t come out during the Bush years when there was a net growth of 2 million jobs, while their predecessors came out in force during the Clinton administration, when 22 million jobs were created. Perhaps because Bush gave then objects to channel their hate, like Muslims and Mexicans? Because now they see a black man trying to take over “their” country? Buchanan himself has written whole books on how America’s Anglo-Saxon-Arian-Nordic “heritage” is under threat by dark-skinned “barbarians.” I found it interesting that when a steel union representative mentioned yesterday that a solar panel manufacturing plant had been moved to China, it barely registered with Schultz; yet a few months ago when a caller fulminated about jobs going to Mexico, Schultz enunciated “Mexico” as if it was a word almost too filthy to speak. No doubt his “friend” Pat Buchanan helps him along with this attitude, which does Schultz no credit—or anyone else who engages in it. Buchanan’s race hatred (as well as that of his sister Bay’s) unlike that of clowns like Beck and Hannity is real and palpable.
Perhaps Thom can tell us more about these anti-government militias in Michigan, which according to a NY Times story are so commonplace that most people there don’t regard their existence as a “big deal.” One might recall last spring when a DHS report on the potential for domestic terrorism was derided by the right, and Janet Napolitano felt obliged to downplay it (you always have to be aware of the tender sensitivities of right-wing terrorists). The arrest of nine members of a Michigan militia calling themselves the “Hutaree” apparently stopped a plot to kill a police officer, and then bomb the subsequent police funeral procession in the hopes of starting an anti-government “war.” One wonders if this had been successful who the initial “suspects” would have been, but with federal involvement the right people were caught in time.
On the Hutaree website, there are blogs entitled “Evil Jew Forum” and “Weapons—the things you kill with.” You have to admit people who belong to groups like this are either really dumb or really “courageous,” because they make no attempt to hide their intentions and are still able to walk the streets unmolested; the Weather Underground people themselves were never caught, they just got tired of outwitting the FBI and turned themselves in. The “surprising” thing is that groups like the Hutaree exist in a climate where they are not only tolerated but often supported and even given unsubtle encouragement by public figures like Sarah Palin..
I grew up on a farm, very small by todays standards 800 acres, 50 head of cows, 250 sows, some sheep, goats, horses and chickens. I have shot and ate most everyone of these and am not against farms or farmers. However, I am against the factory farms. As I Christian I do believe that God gave us diminion over the amimals. But I do not think he meant for use to raise pork that never sees the light of day, until the day it is loaded onto a truck to go to the slaughterhouse. I do not eat veal because of the way it is raised. And do not get me started on modern chicken farms.
So day these poeple will have to answer for the way they treated the animals in thier care.
This is just a Christian point of view. Not to mention the shots all these animals recieve, how turkeys are bred with such large breast they can not even fly. And how they die in less than a year. Why do you think all the turkeys the President 'Pardons' are in a big group. The truth is they die a few months after they recieve thier Pardon
Man Arrested for Death Threats Against Eric Cantor - - CBS News
Thom, you going to continue to call Cantor a liar??? Anyway, was it real enough for a "real threat in your book Thom? I just imagine that this little of news will not hit your Faux news reviews...
I will pay for my relatives who are on any/all forms of socialist income in order that they will no longer continue to draw such income. Instead of the government, I will pay for my parents' social security and I will pay for their medicare and medicaid expenses.
Zero G: good one! ( (a) denigrating the source, or (b) quoting Hightower?):D
I believe Schieffer is just re=arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The one big change would be public campaign financing with air-tight enforcement.
I have asked several tea party supporters that they not take Social Security nor Medicare. Their response: "They give it to me and I earned it! So, I'll take every penny I can get!!!"
I do not, generally, support or agree with most of the views expressed by Schieffer. In fact (and perhaps I should have made this clear in my original post on the topic) only reason I mentioned this at all is because of how rare it was for me to find myself in agreement with the gentleman whose initials are so ironically perfect!
After last week's craziness, however, I begin to fear that the ONLY way this ends is by somebody catching a bullet - maybe the President, maybe a Senator, maybe a Congressman, maybe just a private citizen, but I'm afraid that this nonsense is quite likely to kill someone. Changes in the primary system, obviously, will NOT bring this situation to a better kind of end, but it might prevent it from happening AGAIN.
So ... does anyone have any opinions about the IDEA of non-partisan primaries, as opposed to (a) denigrating the source, or (b) quoting Hightower?
As Garrison Keillor says, "if you're of average intelligence, you're smarter than half the people you meet."
There is an article in WSJ (link below) that tries to defend the Tea party by going deeper into a recent poll to show how the media distorts these people. I think it only shows how discombobulated they are. LOL
The part I like best.....
"A government-run health care plan"--described as socialism by 72%
However....And this is where their minds must completely blow up...
Fewer than 10 percent say the Veterans Administration is definitely socialist, 12 percent identify management of national parks and museums, and 36 percent say expanding Medicare for the elderly, Medicaid for the poor and Social Security amount to socialism.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230437030457515176065847261...
Rove was on Leno last night, reportedly.
"A Hippie is someone who walks like Tarzan, looks like Jane and smells like Cheetah." -ronald reagan
So, I thought I would do a search on Don Siegelman and clicked on the news icon...
Is Rahm Emanuel Providing Cover for Karl Rove and GOP Thugs?
Roger Shuler
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-Rahm-Emanuel-Providing-by-Roger-Shul...
hmm.
Chomsky: Obama is ‘delivering, but for financial institutions’
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0329/chomsky-banks/
Democrats, Republicans, it really doesn't matter; the Corporations own them both.
Socialism vs Privatization
To the folks who think the private sector can always do it better; isn't the Bank bailout, and the need for Health Care reform, examples that the private sector can really mess things up as well. The main difference with the private sector is that a CEO can get really rich screwing things up!
re: hour 3: " Why do Texas politicians always want to suck up to “Big Oil” and ignore the cost to the rest of the country?"
answer: 'cause they want to get elected.
"All those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand." -steven wright
I was listening to Ed Schultz yesterday when a caller began talking about the hate-filled rhetoric on the radio, and she was waiting for the Arbitron ratings to come out on the station she called the worst offender, and her hope that a low-rating would force this hate-filled filth off the air. She identified the station as AM1090, which coincidentally happens be the local progressive talk radio station in Seattle. Schultz cut her off, because he was afraid that he was about to tell her where she could put her observations. It never ceases to amaze me how haters like this caller hate being called haters.
Schultz does have his weaknesses, however. Like Stephanie Miller, who refers to Pat Buchanan as her “daddy,” Schultz has more than a passing fondness for this “friend.” Why is it that so many white people on the left regard this xenophobe and racial bigot a “friend?” This man literally shakes with suppressed rage and hatred on air whenever he defends bigotry or attacks all forms of “multiculturalism.” Is it because he’s “affable” to other white people? Or he is simply stating things that they secretly believe? Last year I wrote a long post detailing just a fraction of Buchanan’s sins, which he habitually spews forth with little push-back. Schultz talked to him yesterday concerning the tea party “movement,” and allowed him to deny, despite all empirical evidence, that social, cultural and racial paranoia motivated in large part this almost wholly white, fringe-right enterprise.
Schultz didn’t ask Buchanan why he defended the tea baggers who acted indecently toward Bob Letcher, a disabled man (Buchanan thought he was deliberately “dragged” there by lefties to cause an embarrassing video bite), nor did he ask him if tea partiers felt they were “marginalized,” why they didn’t come out during the Bush years when there was a net growth of 2 million jobs, while their predecessors came out in force during the Clinton administration, when 22 million jobs were created. Perhaps because Bush gave then objects to channel their hate, like Muslims and Mexicans? Because now they see a black man trying to take over “their” country? Buchanan himself has written whole books on how America’s Anglo-Saxon-Arian-Nordic “heritage” is under threat by dark-skinned “barbarians.” I found it interesting that when a steel union representative mentioned yesterday that a solar panel manufacturing plant had been moved to China, it barely registered with Schultz; yet a few months ago when a caller fulminated about jobs going to Mexico, Schultz enunciated “Mexico” as if it was a word almost too filthy to speak. No doubt his “friend” Pat Buchanan helps him along with this attitude, which does Schultz no credit—or anyone else who engages in it. Buchanan’s race hatred (as well as that of his sister Bay’s) unlike that of clowns like Beck and Hannity is real and palpable.
ROFL
@Wendy: I think it was the "Funky Chicken."
@harry What was a pigeon doing in your pajamas?? =)
Perhaps Thom can tell us more about these anti-government militias in Michigan, which according to a NY Times story are so commonplace that most people there don’t regard their existence as a “big deal.” One might recall last spring when a DHS report on the potential for domestic terrorism was derided by the right, and Janet Napolitano felt obliged to downplay it (you always have to be aware of the tender sensitivities of right-wing terrorists). The arrest of nine members of a Michigan militia calling themselves the “Hutaree” apparently stopped a plot to kill a police officer, and then bomb the subsequent police funeral procession in the hopes of starting an anti-government “war.” One wonders if this had been successful who the initial “suspects” would have been, but with federal involvement the right people were caught in time.
On the Hutaree website, there are blogs entitled “Evil Jew Forum” and “Weapons—the things you kill with.” You have to admit people who belong to groups like this are either really dumb or really “courageous,” because they make no attempt to hide their intentions and are still able to walk the streets unmolested; the Weather Underground people themselves were never caught, they just got tired of outwitting the FBI and turned themselves in. The “surprising” thing is that groups like the Hutaree exist in a climate where they are not only tolerated but often supported and even given unsubtle encouragement by public figures like Sarah Palin..
I just shot a pigeon in my pajamas!
From a Christian Farmers Point of View
I grew up on a farm, very small by todays standards 800 acres, 50 head of cows, 250 sows, some sheep, goats, horses and chickens. I have shot and ate most everyone of these and am not against farms or farmers. However, I am against the factory farms. As I Christian I do believe that God gave us diminion over the amimals. But I do not think he meant for use to raise pork that never sees the light of day, until the day it is loaded onto a truck to go to the slaughterhouse. I do not eat veal because of the way it is raised. And do not get me started on modern chicken farms.
So day these poeple will have to answer for the way they treated the animals in thier care.
This is just a Christian point of view. Not to mention the shots all these animals recieve, how turkeys are bred with such large breast they can not even fly. And how they die in less than a year. Why do you think all the turkeys the President 'Pardons' are in a big group. The truth is they die a few months after they recieve thier Pardon
Man Arrested for Death Threats Against Eric Cantor - - CBS News
Thom, you going to continue to call Cantor a liar??? Anyway, was it real enough for a "real threat in your book Thom? I just imagine that this little of news will not hit your Faux news reviews...
godknows
you
@Paul Warrick, re: I will pay for my parents’ social security and I will pay for their medicare and medicaid expenses.
Thought we were doin' that already!
Thom,
I just wanted to give you kudos on the bumper music for today's show. Bright Eyes, Spoon - both excellent bands. Thank you!
I would like added to the pledge:
I will pay for my relatives who are on any/all forms of socialist income in order that they will no longer continue to draw such income. Instead of the government, I will pay for my parents' social security and I will pay for their medicare and medicaid expenses.
Zero G: good one! ( (a) denigrating the source, or (b) quoting Hightower?):D
I believe Schieffer is just re=arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The one big change would be public campaign financing with air-tight enforcement.
I have asked several tea party supporters that they not take Social Security nor Medicare. Their response: "They give it to me and I earned it! So, I'll take every penny I can get!!!"
@ZeroG -
I do not, generally, support or agree with most of the views expressed by Schieffer. In fact (and perhaps I should have made this clear in my original post on the topic) only reason I mentioned this at all is because of how rare it was for me to find myself in agreement with the gentleman whose initials are so ironically perfect!
After last week's craziness, however, I begin to fear that the ONLY way this ends is by somebody catching a bullet - maybe the President, maybe a Senator, maybe a Congressman, maybe just a private citizen, but I'm afraid that this nonsense is quite likely to kill someone. Changes in the primary system, obviously, will NOT bring this situation to a better kind of end, but it might prevent it from happening AGAIN.
So ... does anyone have any opinions about the IDEA of non-partisan primaries, as opposed to (a) denigrating the source, or (b) quoting Hightower?
@Zero g, they kept the handcuffs, but let me keep the diaper and catheter.
@Brian...we need a FDR for that, instead we got a bill clinton
@harry,
Did they let you keep the handcuffs?
maybe we need workers to have coopreative factories to produce american goods find the vacate factories wtf its an idea