Let's not forget how much money is being wasted on warfare, weapons of war, corporate welfare and tax breaks for people who don’t need them. The Pentagon alone is literally eating our lunch. And what have bank bailouts (on our nickle!) done for us except set us up for the next big crash?! That’s a crapload of wasted money; trillions upon trillions of dollars that can EASILY pay for a guaranteed income and healthcare for all.

This is not a question of available funds. It’s a question of priorities. I’ve said this so many times already, I’m beginning to feel like a scratched Lp with the needle jumping back again and again… but I’ll keep saying it anyway. Priorities, widers!

Delster (post #10), I wholeheartedly agree.

Thom seems to think well-regulated capitalism is a viable option, but I disagree. Capitalism needs to go bye-bye. We cannot count on politicians to regulate it adequately; I think what we’ve witnessed over the past thirty five years gives ample proof. With all due respect to Thom’s intellect and grasp of the issues, I’d love to debate him on that (and Hillary).

Yes. That's because the corporately owned media has been dumbing them down or taking the wind out of their sails. Change is only "hopeless" when one BELIEVES it is.

Kend says... "The simple problem with socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money."

The problem with free-market capitalism is that the few steal/loot what the many have earned and are owed.......thus sooner or later the resultant extreme concentration of wealth creates third world conditions which sooner or later leads to violent revolution.

And? Let's talk about slavery in the North. Shall we?
http://www.ushistory.org/presidentshouse/history/slavery-gw-oney.htm

http://slavenorth.com/slavenorth.htm
� Slavery was legalized in New Plymouth and Connecticut when it was incorporated into the Articles of the New England Confederation (1643). Rhode Island enacted a similar law in 1652. That means New England had formal, legal slavery a full generation before it was established in the South. Not until 1664 did Maryland declare that all blacks held in the colony, and all those imported in the future, would serve for life, as would their offspring. Virginia followed suit by the end of the decade. New York and New Jersey acquired legal slavery when they passed to English control in the 1660s. Pennsylvania, founded only in 1682, followed in 1700, with a law for regulation of servants and slaves.

SLAVERY in the NORTH

Northern slavery grew out of the paradox the new continent presented to its European masters. So much land was available, so cheaply, that no one was willing to come to America and sign on to work as a laborer. The dream that drew Europeans across the Atlantic was owning acres of land or making a fortune in a trade or a craft. It was an attainable dream. In the 1680s a landless Welsh peasant from the mountains of Montgomeryshire could bring his whole family to Pennsylvania for �10 and acquire 250 acres for another �5; placing just one son in a trade in Britain would have cost the family �7.

Yet workers were needed in the new continent to clear the land, work the soil, build the towns. Because of this acute labor shortage, all the American colonies turned to compulsory labor. In New Netherland, in the 1640s, a free European worker could be hired for 280 guilders a year, plus food and lodging. In the same time and place, experienced African slaves from the West Indies could be bought outright, for life, for 300 guilders.

�To claim that the colonies would not have survived without slaves would be a distortion," historian Edgar McManus writes, "but there can be no doubt that the development was significantly speeded by their labor. They provided the basic working force that transformed shaky outposts of empire into areas of permanent settlement.�[1] Or, to consider the situation from a broad view of the entire New World, �... export agriculture and effective colonization would not have occurred on the scale it did if enslaved Africans had not been brought to the New World. Except for precious metals, almost all major American exports to Europe were produced by Africans.�[2]

Early in the 17th century, black slave status in the British Americas was not quite absolute bondage. It was a nebulous condition similar to that of indentured servants. Some Africans brought to America were regarded as "servants" eligible for freedom a certain number of years. Slavery had been on the decline in England, and in most of Europe generally, since the Middle Ages. That may be why the legal definition of slavery as perpetual servitude for blacks and their children was not immediately established in the New World colonies. The first official legal recognition of chattel slavery as a legal institution in British North America was in Massachusetts, in 1641, with the �Body of Liberties.� Slavery was legalized in New Plymouth and Connecticut when it was incorporated into the Articles of the New England Confederation (1643). Rhode Island enacted a similar law in 1652. That means New England had formal, legal slavery a full generation before it was established in the South. Not until 1664 did Maryland declare that all blacks held in the colony, and all those imported in the future, would serve for life, as would their offspring. Virginia followed suit by the end of the decade. New York and New Jersey acquired legal slavery when they passed to English control in the 1660s. Pennsylvania, founded only in 1682, followed in 1700, with a law for regulation of servants and slaves.

Roughly speaking, slavery in the North can be divided into two regions. New England slaves numbered only about 1,000 in 1708, but that rose to more than 5,000 in 1730 and about 13,000 by 1750. New England also was the center of the slave trade in the colonies, supplying captive Africans to the South and the Caribbean island. Black slaves were a valuable shipping commodity that soon proved useful at home, both in large-scale agriculture and in ship-building. The Mid-Atlantic colonies (New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania) had been under Dutch rule before the British conquered them in 1664. African slavery in the middle colonies had been actively encouraged by the Dutch authorities, and this was continued by the British.

Both the Dutch and English colonists in the North preferred to get their slaves from other New World colonies rather than directly from Africa. Direct imports from Africa were considered too dangerous and difficult. Instead, the middle colonies sought their African slaves from Dutch Cura�ao and later from British Jamaica and Barbados. �These slaves were familiar with Western customs and habits of work, qualities highly prized in a region where masters and slaves worked and lived in close proximity.�[3] Having survived one climate change already, they also adjusted better to Northern winters, which incapacitated or killed those direct from Africa. Both causes contributed to the adjective often used to advertise West Indies slaves being sold in the North: "seasoned."

By the late colonial period, the average slave-owning household in New England and the Mid-Atlantic seems to have had about 2 slaves. Estates of 50 or 60 slaves were rare, though they did exist in the Hudson Valley, eastern Connecticut, and the Narragansett region of Rhode Island. But the Northern climate set some barriers to large-scale agricultural slavery. The long winters, which brought no income on Northern farms, made slaves a burden for many months of the year unless they could be hired out to chop wood or tend livestock. In contrast to Southern plantation slavery, Northern slavery tended to be urban.

Slaveholding reflected social as well as economic standing, for in colonial times servants and retainers were visible symbols of rank and distinction. The leading families of Massachusetts and Connecticut used slaves as domestic servants, and in Rhode Island, no prominent household was complete without a large staff of black retainers. New York's rural gentry regarded the possession of black coachmen and footmen as an unmistakable sign of social standing. In Boston, Philadelphia, and New York the mercantile elite kept retinues of household slaves. Their example was followed by tradesmen and small retailers until most houses of substance had at least one or two domestics.[4]

There is argument among historians about the economic role of Northern slaves. Some maintain that New England slaves generally were held in situations where they did not do real work, such as might be done by a white laborer, and that many, if not most, of the New England slaves were held without economic justification, working as house servants or valets. Even in Pennsylvania, the mounting Pennsylvania Quaker testimony against slavery in the 1750s and '60s was in large part aimed against the luxuriousness and extravagance of the Friends who had domestic slaves. But other historians who have studied the matter in some depth (Greene, McManus, Melish) make a forceful case for slave labor being an integral part of the New England economy. And even those slaves who did the arduous work required in a colonial household freed their white owners to pursue careers in law, religion, medicine or civil service.

SEX and RELIGION

The interweaving of Christianity and white supremacy is considered a defining quality of Southern slavery. Yet this also happened in the North. Not only was slavery sanctioned by the God of the Old Testament, it was a positive duty of his chosen people in the New World, because it brought the Gospel to the pagans of Africa. 

The Bible and Christian theology clearly tell us to Work Hard and Play By The Rules / Lower Taxes Less Spending. So, in America where Holy Scripture is the key to the Persuit of Happiness the rich people are the good people and so the rich people are the Children of The Lord that get the money. The rest of the people are simply bad people, with bad children, bad relatives and bad families who are always looking to have better roads, better bridges, better schools, better affordable health care, fair and just courts, policemen who protect and serve, government that gets good stuff done, clean water, fresh air, healthy things to eat, safe transportation, post office mail service, nature parks, fun puppy dogs, bike paths, clean sand at the beach, blueberries to eat once in a while. If you read your Bible and pray to the Lord you will understand that all the stuff the bad people want costs money. The good people have all the money, God wants it that way. It is the Will of God. In God We Trust. Love God. Love your own family. Love your rich friends. Rich people are the good people. Rich Corporations are good people too. That is how God wants it. His Will Be Done. Amen. Halalula. Praise the Lord. Be a good person and get rich so you can go to Heaven. You will get to watch all the poor bad people be tormented with all their little poor babies in Hell for eternity. Holy Scripture is clear about that. So, don't ask for stuff, just be a good person and get rich. Everything's gonna be alright. Stay Tuned.

A video explanation of what I just discussed above: https://youtu.be/9N2THwvS0Ok

OR. They spent way beyond their means and no one will lend them any more money. Would you? The simple problem with socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Look closer to home. Detroit for example. It is great to be a Bernie Sanders, everything for everybody but don't forget someone has to pay for it. Zise Kai Mathe

The difference with the U.S. saying the Cuban people shouldn't have to pay the debts of their rulers in 1898 is that those rulers were the Spaniards, not the politicians of Cuba. It's not the same as the Greeks dealing with Greek debt or Americans dealing with U.S. debt. I.e., Greece is not seceding from Greece, as Cuba seceded (forcefully) from Spain.

I'm very surprised to hear that Colorado has no non-white elected prosecutors. The only prosecutor I ever met was black, though he wasn't in an elected position.

The election of Hayes vs. Tilden did not go to the House of Representatives. Only those two people got electoral votes, and since the total was an odd number, one of them got a majority.

What did happen, however, is that corrupt Republicans threw out votes in Louisiana, South Carolina and Florida, in order to steal the election from Tilden, who still had a majority of the popular votes after all that. (The unit rule used to determine states' electoral votes really screwed things up there.)

Ode to Kevin

. . . .

Your synapses don’t snap

in such a thick skull, -

- but my, how your tongue can flap

inside the thick hull

which holds the crap

which functional synapses would annul.

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