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Perhaps world needs to police Obama and his fellow war mongers! And yes, exactly, Obama is a Republican Trojan Horse as are all those other Democrats who act just like Republican war mongers...Like Debbie Wasserman and Diane Feinstein just to name a few. Yes, I voted for the weasel the first time but wised up before making the same mistake again.
Mr. Hartmann, I agree with you most of the time, but "police the world"???? C'mon.
If they get anything from their efforts it would likely be a rise in minimum wage. Unions may be a stretch these days.
President Obama is a Republican Trojan Horse. I can't believe I ever voted for this ineffective sellout.
Ever wonder what Dhahran, Saudi Arabia looks like? Here is a video from about 4-5 months ago of a drive through one of the residential areas of Dhahran: Lots more trees than I remember..and a lot greener...wow! 30 years ago...doesn't seem that long ago. I wish this video had shown the Expat Center, tower and more of the recreational areas..etc. But the Saudis are very fussy about picture or video taking...and that was so even before Saddam's scuds. I still have a phone book.
http://www.aramcoexpats.com/articles/2013/04/a-driving-tour-of-dhahran/
Industry needs strict regulation. Individual people need no regulation. We call that FREEDOM!! The problem is that current law is favoring the opposite. We need to bring back constitutional law and banish industrial interests from our Government. Move to Amend and Campaign Finance Reform NOW!!!
This is a job for the UNITED NATIONS!!!
Our leaders need to realize that the United States is NOT the worlds policeman. What Syria did is horrible, but it is none of our business to attack them militarily. They have done nothing to threaten us. What we and other countries who agree on this position need to do is to impose economic sanctions on them just as we have done to North Korea. All an attack will do is to further worsen our reputation in the area (if that is even possible).
When the genocide was going on in Darfur, did we attack any of the groups involved? NO. How is this any different?
We wonder why the world hates us
The West are not there bombing and killing all over the place because there's no oil
What's happening in the Gaza meantime? Cheney got an oil concession whilst we're blindsided
Now political execs are seeking permission to kill because they have no testicles or moral precept
Without permission PUS can only go two ways and you can bet the Brit poodle will follow with support by nefarious manipulation
The two ways are sort of obvious - go Saudi or go Israel
These guys have been at each others throat for centuries
They even got there own religious beliefs around it
I hope they all get over their school yard fight whilst they allow the other 5-6 billion people on the Planet live
And, then let us get on without listening to and having to witness their asinine stupidity
Why don't they get over it???
DAnneMarc: Britam Defences is the name of the company; and no, Britam (although it is a British Company is not mispelled). It is spelled Britam and not Britain. I don't know...maybe it is a contraction of British-American? Like Aramco was Arabian American Oil Company...and now that I think of it...why wouldn't it have been Aramoco (with the extra o to indicate oil)? I don't know perhaps I should have found that out when I actually worked for them many years ago.
At that time, the Iraq-Iran war was going on. The closest I got to that mess was when I traveled up and down the Arabian Gulf side as far north as As-Saffaniya (about 40 miles from the Kuwaiti border)...to Yanbu on the Red Sea side of Saudi Arabia.
I used to listen to my short wave radio to all the propaganda flying about from Iran...yes, they had broadcasts in English as well as Farsi. I listened to Radio Moscow as well. I don't remember listening to anything from Iraq though.
It's funny because I kind of had a premonition of what was to come in Dhahran back in about February of 1983. I even told people at a party I went to. I knew I was soon to leave Saudi Arabia...leave Aramco...I was quitting. I told them that I had a very strong feeling that Dhahran (especially Aramco compound) would be hit by missiles....as they sure were years later, in February of 1991, when Saddam launched his scuds. I know one scud hit a US makeshift barracks that killed 27 US servicemen.
Actually, in fact, I even had told my coworkers on the 10th floor of the 11 story Expat building that someone will likely try to shoot Reagan(666) . And son of a gun if someone didn't try the very next day. I was shocked! Now, I don't really think I am psychic...just quite a coincidence...I'd say.
Right ON DAnneMarc
No more war !!!
This congress is war crazy. We dont have any right to bomb a country that has not done anything to us. Let the UN handle this. Isnt that what they are there for???
Palindromedary ~ Oh, no! There goes my ears again! Look out across the room. "Kind regards????" What the hell is that? Some kind of a sarcastic joke?
One question, "Britam" Defence Business Development Director? Is that is misspelling for Britain, or the name of a company? Inquiring minds what to know.
I still haven't heard the United Nations suggested by anyone in this matter. Why have a UN? This is why they were created in the first place. Didn't Clinton sign away all of our sovereignty to the UN when in office. I swear this is all an illegal charade the success of which depends on the ignorance of the people. Yet the full blame falls squarely on the UN for not flexing it's muscles.
Palindromedary ~ You are right! This could very easily lead to WWIII. That is why we have a UN in the first place. That is where approval for any action needs to be centered--not our congress. Our congress and President together only count for one vote in the UN. The UN is the final deciding factor as to what is done in and about Syria or any other country in the world including the USA.
Bombshell: Kerry Caught Using Fake Photos to Fuel Syrian War
http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied...
http://hackersnewsbulletin.com/2013/09/exclusive-pentagon-may-involved-c...
Global: Thanks for that information about Yosseph Bodanski's article! Very revealing!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-the-white-house-help-plan-the-syrian-ch...
Looks like the real war criminals are not currently sitting in power in Syria!
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
May I suggest the poem by Wilfred Owen: Dulce est Decorum et. A fine WWI poem that says alot about war in 4 short stanzas.
Also I'd say the chemical incident in Syria is equivalent to the Archduke assassination. America is currently at the Austrian Ultimatum stage. The Ultimatum is what made WWI inevitable (well that and Austria's prep to that Ultimatum).
You would have to be deaf dumb blind and stupid not to see that this is a total set-up. But of course you are dealing with the Obama administration and Pelosi and Harry Reid. Don't do it you morons. We can only hope that the tea party conservatives will vote no and can drag us away from the cliff. Good article by Yossef Bodansky on what may have happened. Look it up.
Hmmm!! I wonder who that could be? ;-o
Do you know who was selling chemical weapons to both Iran and Iraq before Iraq used chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Kurds? Lots of countries including the US and Israel!
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/ Documents at the bottom of this GWU report.
DAnneMarc: You're welcome!
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"The symptoms suggest that the weaponized compound Agent-15 was responsible. Syria denied using chemical weapons and said it would never use them against citizens.
Speaking to Pentagon reporters at the time, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said his biggest concern was how the U.S. and allies would secure the chemical and biological weapons sites scattered across Syria and ensure the components don't end up in the wrong hands if the regime falls, particularly under violent conditions."
Remember, that the US aided Aghanistan war lords to rid Afghanistan of the Russian occupiers and that turned around to bite us because the US just pulled out and left behind untold numbers of weapons and munitions that Al Qaida used against the US when the US invaded and occupied Afghanistan and Iraq. We could see the same scenario being played out in Syria. Assad in Syria, like Saddam Husein in Iraq, may have not have been model leaders but when they are ousted and terrorist organizations like Al Qaida are left to amass what remains of the military hardware and munitions they just turn around and use them against the US. And, believe me, you sure don't want Al Qaida to have lots of chemical weapons!!!
This is from an archived web site that shows the original article that has either been banned or censored. They are now claiming that the hacked emails were fabricated..or, were they really?!
http://web.archive.org/web/20130129213824/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html
We can not sit around and let this happen. BUT, as I said before its someone elses turn. What about Finland, Croatia, Holland etc, etc. Why do countries like these all get a free pass.
Why the hell would the US borrow money from China to protect oil going to China? China can send there troops in.
I have a better idea, strike the countries that are selling the weapons to Assad.
Right on, Vegasman56! Indeed! Our nation continues to suffer the shame, humiliation and degradation of thousands of unnecessary deaths due to lack of decent health care while a few wealthy people, who make lots of money on killing less fortunate people, try to make a case for murdering many more civilians in Syria.
As pointed out on the Max Keiser show, China is surpassing the US as the world's leading superpower in many ways. I think the chickensh!t war lords and war mongers (Republicans and Democrats) in the US had better watch their step. They are about to ignite another potential world war and they just might not come out on top this time!
Can you imagine Americans (USians) being forced to pay massive war reparations as did Germany after WWI? Maybe we should impeach, in the US, all war lords, war criminals, and war jingoes before they make a real mess of the world. I listened to that DNC dummy Debbie Wasserman begging for war against Syria. Yeah, Duh! She is jewish, of course! And Israel is all hawish against Syria...why? because Assad doesn't bow down and kiss Israels backside. These Jews, Christians, and Muslims are about to rip the world apart....again!
There is no evidence that Assad was behind the chemical attack! In fact, there is more evidence that the US (and their Al Qaida mercenaries-the rebels), Israel, Britain, Qatar and Saudi Arabia were behind it than there is for Assad. Yet, all you hear on US TV is the very predominant assumption that Assad was behind it all. They sure don't mention those hacked emails from Britam Defences, a British company that, for large sums of money, assists governments to achieve their military goals. Kind of like Haliburton and Stratfor, I would imagine. Remember the leaked Stratfor emails...and how they enlightened the world about their covert activiites.
The following happened in January of this year...way before the actual chemical attack:
"The leaked emails, obtained by a hacker in Germany, feature an exchange between Britam Defence's Business Development Director David Goulding and the company's founder Philip Doughty; Phil We've got a new offer. It's about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. We'll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don't think it's a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? Kind regards David"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sEx6t_WWts [watch the first part about the hacked emails]
Assad, since he is now being, perhaps falsely, blamed for the chemical attack, and if we invade Syria, Assad may have already distributed chem weapons thoughout his region (or maybe even in the US..just waiting to be triggered by an encrypted phone call or computer message...email...twitter?) to select targets and there would be no way the US could keep them from using them against even more civilians. Would a desperate dictator like Assad do such a thing if the US invaded? Most likely! Would Assad use his scud missiles to carry payloads of chem weapons to targets in Israel? Most Likely! Would Russia and other countries get involved to fight US imperialism and hegemony? Now that is a big question isn't it? Are we looking down the barrel of WWIII?