I had that genetic test. I had to wait long before it was approved. Medicare Medicaid approved. I was lucky that my problems were not due to the gentic problems but my family has problems from a gene not nown yet.
Palindromedary ~ To answer your question-- Yes! LOL What difference does it make? We are all compromised. There is no discrimination in the digital age. It all hinges on the ability to store the information. Nothing else. Welcome to 1984!
Thank you, DAnneMarc, it's good to be back ...for a little while anyway... been pretty busy lately. Yes, I've been interested in the Snowden affair. But my news on that matter has been rather sketchy as I rarely have much time to watch TV or read much on the internet. Yes, I agree, Bravo for Edward Snowden!
It's all part of the same corporate greed and nonsense that seems to be everywhere and growing. FEMA has enough to contend with working on natural disasters and climate change issues ahead.
Palindromedary ~ TAO! Now that is as spiritual as God. Two different three letter words with the same meaning as far as I am concerned. I find that you can find TAO (God) in every culture in the history of the world. What the doctrine of truths are based on varies; but, the truth remains the same.
Quite frankly, I'm not surprised that the US Government would usurp the name given to the Chinese belief in the Sacred to undermine their security. For some time now I have suspected the US as embodying the Revelation description of the Anti-Christ. Unfortunately, every day and in every way, the more I learn seems to support that theory. I'm afraid we all live in the belly of The Beast!
Bravo for Edward Snowden! A Saint of the highest order! May God (TAO) Bless and help him!
Palindromedary ~ Here's an excerpt from last Friday's blog you might enjoy ;-)
BMetcalfe wrote:What I say, personally, doesn't jeopardize me. I know better than to say stupid or dangerous things on the internet. Apparently our teens and young adults who have grown up in the information age, have no idea how much they are jeopardizing their future jobs, relationships, healthcare, etc.
Isn't that precisely the point in question. All this collection of data is reminiscent of J. Edgar Hoover, the former head of the FBI, who did exactly the same thing and used that information to blackmail anyone--including Presidents of the United States--into doing anything he wanted. Everyone should listen to what BMetcalfe is saying--just because this poses no threat to ourselves doesn't mean it won't come back to bite our children in the future. Imagine a J. Edgar Hoover today in the digital information age. That's blackmail on steroids! Imagine a future where our grandchildren are participating on a blog such as this and are afraid to say anything that isn't positive about the government. I heard one story on a recent documentary on the History channel that once a newspaper reporter did a story critical of J Edgar Hoover. The next day all the competitor newspapers received in the mail high resolution photos of that reporters wife engaging in sex in a car with someone else. It is believed that was to send a message to the other papers not to repeat that mistake in the future. Now imagine the power if that same message could have been sent out with a simple email. There is a good reason that the founding fathers wrote privacy into our Constitution. They understood the vital importance of privacy to the security of the nation.
Laura Enright wrote:What I don't understand is where was this passion about being spied on when this stuff was implemented in 2005/06.
The media downplayed the passion, but it was there. It is still there as is evident by this topic. Don't you remember that in 2008 we elected the first black man in history to the office of the President of the USA? Is it no coincidence that this same black man had the background of a Constitutional scholar. Do you think a black man with a PHD in economics would have won? I think not. I think it was his background in Constitutional law and the fact that this country was experiencing a Constitutional crisis and cried out to the best qualified person to fix it. I think people were more concerned about the fate of the Constitution than their own economic plights. That is how much passion the people of this country have about the Constitution. It makes them color blind.
- See more at: http://www.thdpufomhartmann.com/blog/2013/06/legal-not-same-constitutional#sthash.2CuOy3aY.
Palindromedary ~ I've just reviewed UKUSA and ECHELON. These appear to have been top secret, illegal, and unconstitutional spy networks. (Henceforth the need for secrecy.) It is true that spying is nothing new. The government breaking its own laws is nothing new. However, spying legally and openly compelling private industry to aid and abet, on all private US citizens without reason, and using no bid private contractors certainly is. Please correct me if I'm wrong. PRISM sounds like a private corporate spy ring hiding behind the US Government. I can't help but feel that all this information they are gathering are earmarked for nefarious uses that we can only begin to imagine. I certainly feel less safe under these conditions than I did before The Patriot Act. We only know who is providing these private industries with this information. We have no idea where it is being stored, who has access to it, or how it may be used. This is completely preposterous.
Without the Constitution to protect us, We the People have no course for redress of any grievances resulting from this compromise of our privacy. This must stop!
Palindromedary ~ Great to see you back! You've been missed. You should review last Friday's blog. It was all about Edward Snowden and the question of privacy and the constitutionality of The Patriot Act. Thanks for bringiing up those other little privacy tidbits. I intend to go back and review your contributions after writing this "salutations post".
By the way, Thom Hartmann has posted a poll as to whether or not it is time to repeal The Patriot Act.
Fortunitely, he did not insult our intelligence by posting a yes or no answer; but, rather a YES, because it never should have been written in the first place; or, YES, because it has gotten way out of hand. LOL
Original Patent and Copyright laws said that mathematical procedures, natural things and previously published things could nto be patented.
Since computer programs are arrtangements of mathematical logic, it is my opinion that they should not be patentable either. Also, one cannot copyright words. Yet the trademaark interpretationo f cop0yright laws allows "Big Mac" to be trademarked and any food with "Mac" has been intrepreted as violation of the trademark procedures.
Corporate incompetence has been made possible by this generation of Americans -- us -- who allowed government to "free corporations from the burdens of regulations." Remember Reagan's deregulation frenzy, so steadfastly supported by a middle class that inexplicably thought this would lead to a mass of good, family supporting jobs? Well, now we have to take responsibility for the consequences of those policies. Since we refused to keep corporate powers under control, well regulated, we have to pay the bill for the path of destruction they leave behind them.
Here in TN, they have taken steps though new legislation to allow creationism back into the classroom. This law turns the clock back nearly 100 years here in the seemingly unprogressive South and is simply embarrassing. There is no argument against the Theory of Evolution other than that of religious doctrine. The Monkey Law only opens the door for fanatic Christianity to creep its way back into our classrooms. You can see my visual response as a Tennessean to this absurd law on my artist’s blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/04/pulpit-in-classroom-biblical-... with some evolutionary art and a little bit of simple logic.
To say that Mr. Bitely & Ms. Cirmo have a very naive idea of how the SNAP program actually works is as polite as I can be on the subject. Perhaps they should actually do some field research on the subject before laughably saying that the local food banks can handle the amount of families that are using this program, when the food banks themselves are begging for donations to cover those they already serve before the new cuts even take place.
Individuals have already been helped by FEMA, it's the roads and other destruction that the chem plant doesn't have enough insurance to cover. Cities, states and nations must demand that destructive corporations carry sufficient insurance for forseeable catastrophes and REGULATE them into safety (or zone them out of communities/sensitive environments). The negligent city and state will need to rebuild since the Feds have already helped the individuals.
The Trans Pacific Partnership (secretly negotiated TPP) will allow corporations to willy-nilly abuse communitees and their environments or be sued for massive lost FUTURE PROFITS. This expansion of corporate globalization will only help the socially and environmentally destructive industries and not the people whose water is stolen and/or poisoned - or roads are blown up.
Hypocrisy and lies from the US government reminds me of when Eisenhower was telling the world that the US wasn't spying of the Russians using high altitude fly overs..and then he was totally embarrassed when Gary Powers' U2 got shot down over Russia.
Quote Wikipedia:Tao is a Chinese concept signifying 'way', 'path', 'route', or sometimes more loosely, 'doctrine' or 'principle'"
"Tao is not a 'name' for a 'thing' but the underlying natural order of the universe whose ultimate essence is difficult to circumscribe."
But there is another Tao that is an acronym for a top secret NSA program of spying...hacking into computers, breaking passwords, etc. The NSA TAO program stands for Tailored Access Operations(TAO).
The Whitehouse leaked, a couple of weeks ago, that Obama would question the new Chinese Leader about Chinese government hacking, and stealing very sensitive military and business data from Americans. But, America has been spying on the Chinese government for over 15 years...hacking into their computers and stealing their data.
Quote article:Senior Chinese officials have publicly accused the US government of hypocrisy and have alleged that Washington is also actively engaged in cyber-espionage. When the latest allegation of Chinese cyber-espionage was levelled in late May in a front-page Washington Post article, which alleged that hackers employed by the Chinese military had stolen the blueprints of over three dozen American weapons systems, the Chinese government’s top internet official, Huang Chengqing, shot back that Beijing possessed "mountains of data" showing that the United States has engaged in widespread hacking designed to steal Chinese government secrets. Last week’s revelations about the National Security Agency’s Prism and Verizon metadata collection from a 29-year-old former CIA undercover operative named Edward J. Snowden, who is now living in Hong Kong, only add fuel to Beijing’s position.
But Washington never publicly responded to Huang’s allegation, and nobody in the US media seems to have bothered to ask the White House if there is a modicum of truth to the Chinese charges.
It turns out that the Chinese government’s allegations are essentially correct. According to a number of confidential sources, a highly secretive unit of the National Security Agency (NSA), the US government’s huge electronic eavesdropping organisation, called the Office of Tailored Access Operations (TAO) has successfully penetrated Chinese computer and telecommunications systems for almost 15 years, generating some of the best and most reliable intelligence information about what is going on inside the People’s Republic of China.
Technology, whether bio or computational, has the tendency to concentrate more and more power into fewer and fewer hands. This concentration leads to the prospect of the "absolute power" referred to by Lord Acton. The process guarantees the demise of any residual form of democracy we may have left. Please check out the Youtube video of a Tedtalks by Daniel Suarez titled "Kill Decision". I think it would likely be the most important 13 minutes you will spend this week. Then think of Prism churning thru your online life.
Many people grow up dirt poorNAND live very happy lives while among the wealthy children suffer from neglect. Poverty as areason for abortion is class warfare. The Republicans are no morewasting their timeraising an issue that can't pass the Senate than the Democrats who tried for years to stop the war and raised their voices every nightat the end of the days session to rail against an unjust war. Fetal pain is real, the science is there for anyone who wants to do the research on the web. The real war onwomen are the people who do not support a pregnant women in taking herchild to term and that starts with a culture that pushes abortion on women as she "right thing to do".
EVERYTHING about GOP is obstructing our President. They are digging a grave for themselves (albeit slowly) until one day the American people will consider them irrevelant.
Well said.Kend. And when there are millions of illegal aliens living in this country why are we talking about "Immigration Reform"? Why are we not calling this an amnesty?
Oh I see Frank Luntz's finger prints all over this issue.
Austerity is here. Look at Greece Europe's banks have admitted that austerity did not work there By not dealing with jobs and sequester Republicans are negligent. Can we sue them for negligence?
Kend ~ Very well! 6 months and later I agree. The "parents" have had more than enough time to make a responsible decision by then. It is the desire to take that decision out of the hands of the woman, and father, before 6 months; and, from the time of conception and before that is the assault or war on women. When the Republicans strive to prevent the "morning after pill," publicly funded contraceptives or education, planned parenthood, or 1st to 6 th month abortion is where the war is being fought. Republicans wish to assert their control over the life producing attributes of women. To assert control over the natural bodily functions of anyone is prohibited by the Constitution of the United States, and by human nature. Protection of an egg, sperm, or fetus, which does not draw breath or is by definition entitled to any protection of citizenry under the Constitution is unconstitutional and a blatant disregard of human rights. Henceforth, such efforts and legislation is an assault and declaration of war on the sovereignty of women over their own bodies.
Moreover, this is a war to control the unborn as well. Poor children with no hope to overcome their disadvantages are far better candidates for cannon fodder than well to do children aren't they?
Anything done by the far right seems to be just another stalling tactic and slight of hand to keep eyes off any real work on real issues. We can only hope and pray it comes back on them on election day, with enough people frustrated with this "do-nothing congress" that many are booted out. With more and more old hat republicans disgusted about the way their party is going, many just won't bother to vote in 2014, and with a hard-hitting grass roots movement toward a more liberal public, there is a strong possibility the house could be turned around, despite the money machine behind the GOP.
My guest arived last Friday...As soon as they arrived we proceeded to empty a handle of rum into our gullets. Of course the next day everyone was a bit hungover, however we had a friends 40th B-Day party to go to...Wow, what a weekend.
Oh yeah,I almost forgot, abortion...Hmmm lets see...Blah, blah, blah, blah...High and Mighty B-B-B-Bullshit!!!
Pro Choice...Have one, don't have one...Other than that...Shut the fuck up!
There are much, MUCH bigger issues to worry about. Like the trillions of dollars spent on illegal and unnecessary wars and hundreds of millions of lives the U.S. has snuffed out...All in the name of American Capitalism!
I had that genetic test. I had to wait long before it was approved. Medicare Medicaid approved. I was lucky that my problems were not due to the gentic problems but my family has problems from a gene not nown yet.
Amy in Madison
Palindromedary ~ To answer your question-- Yes! LOL What difference does it make? We are all compromised. There is no discrimination in the digital age. It all hinges on the ability to store the information. Nothing else. Welcome to 1984!
Thank you, DAnneMarc, it's good to be back ...for a little while anyway... been pretty busy lately. Yes, I've been interested in the Snowden affair. But my news on that matter has been rather sketchy as I rarely have much time to watch TV or read much on the internet. Yes, I agree, Bravo for Edward Snowden!
Here's a map of the internet:
http://cryptome.org/2013/06/internet-map.pdf
Can you find your ISP in this mess?
It's all part of the same corporate greed and nonsense that seems to be everywhere and growing. FEMA has enough to contend with working on natural disasters and climate change issues ahead.
Palindromedary ~ TAO! Now that is as spiritual as God. Two different three letter words with the same meaning as far as I am concerned. I find that you can find TAO (God) in every culture in the history of the world. What the doctrine of truths are based on varies; but, the truth remains the same.
Quite frankly, I'm not surprised that the US Government would usurp the name given to the Chinese belief in the Sacred to undermine their security. For some time now I have suspected the US as embodying the Revelation description of the Anti-Christ. Unfortunately, every day and in every way, the more I learn seems to support that theory. I'm afraid we all live in the belly of The Beast!
Bravo for Edward Snowden! A Saint of the highest order! May God (TAO) Bless and help him!
Palindromedary ~ Here's an excerpt from last Friday's blog you might enjoy ;-)
BMetcalfe wrote:What I say, personally, doesn't jeopardize me. I know better than to say stupid or dangerous things on the internet. Apparently our teens and young adults who have grown up in the information age, have no idea how much they are jeopardizing their future jobs, relationships, healthcare, etc.
Isn't that precisely the point in question. All this collection of data is reminiscent of J. Edgar Hoover, the former head of the FBI, who did exactly the same thing and used that information to blackmail anyone--including Presidents of the United States--into doing anything he wanted. Everyone should listen to what BMetcalfe is saying--just because this poses no threat to ourselves doesn't mean it won't come back to bite our children in the future. Imagine a J. Edgar Hoover today in the digital information age. That's blackmail on steroids! Imagine a future where our grandchildren are participating on a blog such as this and are afraid to say anything that isn't positive about the government. I heard one story on a recent documentary on the History channel that once a newspaper reporter did a story critical of J Edgar Hoover. The next day all the competitor newspapers received in the mail high resolution photos of that reporters wife engaging in sex in a car with someone else. It is believed that was to send a message to the other papers not to repeat that mistake in the future. Now imagine the power if that same message could have been sent out with a simple email. There is a good reason that the founding fathers wrote privacy into our Constitution. They understood the vital importance of privacy to the security of the nation.
Laura Enright wrote:What I don't understand is where was this passion about being spied on when this stuff was implemented in 2005/06.
The media downplayed the passion, but it was there. It is still there as is evident by this topic. Don't you remember that in 2008 we elected the first black man in history to the office of the President of the USA? Is it no coincidence that this same black man had the background of a Constitutional scholar. Do you think a black man with a PHD in economics would have won? I think not. I think it was his background in Constitutional law and the fact that this country was experiencing a Constitutional crisis and cried out to the best qualified person to fix it. I think people were more concerned about the fate of the Constitution than their own economic plights. That is how much passion the people of this country have about the Constitution. It makes them color blind.
- See more at: http://www.thdpufomhartmann.com/blog/2013/06/legal-not-same-constitutional#sthash.2CuOy3aY.
Palindromedary ~ I've just reviewed UKUSA and ECHELON. These appear to have been top secret, illegal, and unconstitutional spy networks. (Henceforth the need for secrecy.) It is true that spying is nothing new. The government breaking its own laws is nothing new. However, spying legally and openly compelling private industry to aid and abet, on all private US citizens without reason, and using no bid private contractors certainly is. Please correct me if I'm wrong. PRISM sounds like a private corporate spy ring hiding behind the US Government. I can't help but feel that all this information they are gathering are earmarked for nefarious uses that we can only begin to imagine. I certainly feel less safe under these conditions than I did before The Patriot Act. We only know who is providing these private industries with this information. We have no idea where it is being stored, who has access to it, or how it may be used. This is completely preposterous.
Without the Constitution to protect us, We the People have no course for redress of any grievances resulting from this compromise of our privacy. This must stop!
Palindromedary ~ Great to see you back! You've been missed. You should review last Friday's blog. It was all about Edward Snowden and the question of privacy and the constitutionality of The Patriot Act. Thanks for bringiing up those other little privacy tidbits. I intend to go back and review your contributions after writing this "salutations post".
By the way, Thom Hartmann has posted a poll as to whether or not it is time to repeal The Patriot Act.
http://www.thomhartmann.com/polls/2013/06/it-time-repeal-patriot-act#
Fortunitely, he did not insult our intelligence by posting a yes or no answer; but, rather a YES, because it never should have been written in the first place; or, YES, because it has gotten way out of hand. LOL
Thom can really shine when he want to.
I placed a comment there too.
Original Patent and Copyright laws said that mathematical procedures, natural things and previously published things could nto be patented.
Since computer programs are arrtangements of mathematical logic, it is my opinion that they should not be patentable either. Also, one cannot copyright words. Yet the trademaark interpretationo f cop0yright laws allows "Big Mac" to be trademarked and any food with "Mac" has been intrepreted as violation of the trademark procedures.
Corporate incompetence has been made possible by this generation of Americans -- us -- who allowed government to "free corporations from the burdens of regulations." Remember Reagan's deregulation frenzy, so steadfastly supported by a middle class that inexplicably thought this would lead to a mass of good, family supporting jobs? Well, now we have to take responsibility for the consequences of those policies. Since we refused to keep corporate powers under control, well regulated, we have to pay the bill for the path of destruction they leave behind them.
Here in TN, they have taken steps though new legislation to allow creationism back into the classroom. This law turns the clock back nearly 100 years here in the seemingly unprogressive South and is simply embarrassing. There is no argument against the Theory of Evolution other than that of religious doctrine. The Monkey Law only opens the door for fanatic Christianity to creep its way back into our classrooms. You can see my visual response as a Tennessean to this absurd law on my artist’s blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/04/pulpit-in-classroom-biblical-... with some evolutionary art and a little bit of simple logic.
To say that Mr. Bitely & Ms. Cirmo have a very naive idea of how the SNAP program actually works is as polite as I can be on the subject. Perhaps they should actually do some field research on the subject before laughably saying that the local food banks can handle the amount of families that are using this program, when the food banks themselves are begging for donations to cover those they already serve before the new cuts even take place.
Individuals have already been helped by FEMA, it's the roads and other destruction that the chem plant doesn't have enough insurance to cover. Cities, states and nations must demand that destructive corporations carry sufficient insurance for forseeable catastrophes and REGULATE them into safety (or zone them out of communities/sensitive environments). The negligent city and state will need to rebuild since the Feds have already helped the individuals.
The Trans Pacific Partnership (secretly negotiated TPP) will allow corporations to willy-nilly abuse communitees and their environments or be sued for massive lost FUTURE PROFITS. This expansion of corporate globalization will only help the socially and environmentally destructive industries and not the people whose water is stolen and/or poisoned - or roads are blown up.
Totally agree --- the time is NOW
Yes, help the folks, then bill the corporation that caused it and don't let them declare bankruptcy or change their name to avoid paying.
Hypocrisy and lies from the US government reminds me of when Eisenhower was telling the world that the US wasn't spying of the Russians using high altitude fly overs..and then he was totally embarrassed when Gary Powers' U2 got shot down over Russia.
But there is another Tao that is an acronym for a top secret NSA program of spying...hacking into computers, breaking passwords, etc. The NSA TAO program stands for Tailored Access Operations(TAO).
The Whitehouse leaked, a couple of weeks ago, that Obama would question the new Chinese Leader about Chinese government hacking, and stealing very sensitive military and business data from Americans. But, America has been spying on the Chinese government for over 15 years...hacking into their computers and stealing their data.
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1259175/inside-nsas-ultra-secret-...
Before there was PRISM...there was UKUSA and then ECHELON.
Nicky Hager wrote a book in 1996 exposing the information on these government spy networks.
I bought and read this book back in about 1998 but now it is free as a pdf here: http://www.nickyhager.info/Secret_Power.pdf
Technology, whether bio or computational, has the tendency to concentrate more and more power into fewer and fewer hands. This concentration leads to the prospect of the "absolute power" referred to by Lord Acton. The process guarantees the demise of any residual form of democracy we may have left. Please check out the Youtube video of a Tedtalks by Daniel Suarez titled "Kill Decision". I think it would likely be the most important 13 minutes you will spend this week. Then think of Prism churning thru your online life.
Regards,
C. Krob
Many people grow up dirt poorNAND live very happy lives while among the wealthy children suffer from neglect. Poverty as areason for abortion is class warfare. The Republicans are no morewasting their timeraising an issue that can't pass the Senate than the Democrats who tried for years to stop the war and raised their voices every nightat the end of the days session to rail against an unjust war. Fetal pain is real, the science is there for anyone who wants to do the research on the web. The real war onwomen are the people who do not support a pregnant women in taking herchild to term and that starts with a culture that pushes abortion on women as she "right thing to do".
EVERYTHING about GOP is obstructing our President. They are digging a grave for themselves (albeit slowly) until one day the American people will consider them irrevelant.
Well said.Kend. And when there are millions of illegal aliens living in this country why are we talking about "Immigration Reform"? Why are we not calling this an amnesty?
Oh I see Frank Luntz's finger prints all over this issue.
Austerity is here. Look at Greece Europe's banks have admitted that austerity did not work there By not dealing with jobs and sequester Republicans are negligent. Can we sue them for negligence?
Amy in Madison Wis
Kend ~ Very well! 6 months and later I agree. The "parents" have had more than enough time to make a responsible decision by then. It is the desire to take that decision out of the hands of the woman, and father, before 6 months; and, from the time of conception and before that is the assault or war on women. When the Republicans strive to prevent the "morning after pill," publicly funded contraceptives or education, planned parenthood, or 1st to 6 th month abortion is where the war is being fought. Republicans wish to assert their control over the life producing attributes of women. To assert control over the natural bodily functions of anyone is prohibited by the Constitution of the United States, and by human nature. Protection of an egg, sperm, or fetus, which does not draw breath or is by definition entitled to any protection of citizenry under the Constitution is unconstitutional and a blatant disregard of human rights. Henceforth, such efforts and legislation is an assault and declaration of war on the sovereignty of women over their own bodies.
Moreover, this is a war to control the unborn as well. Poor children with no hope to overcome their disadvantages are far better candidates for cannon fodder than well to do children aren't they?
Anything done by the far right seems to be just another stalling tactic and slight of hand to keep eyes off any real work on real issues. We can only hope and pray it comes back on them on election day, with enough people frustrated with this "do-nothing congress" that many are booted out. With more and more old hat republicans disgusted about the way their party is going, many just won't bother to vote in 2014, and with a hard-hitting grass roots movement toward a more liberal public, there is a strong possibility the house could be turned around, despite the money machine behind the GOP.
ABORTION!?!?Here we go again!
My guest arived last Friday...As soon as they arrived we proceeded to empty a handle of rum into our gullets. Of course the next day everyone was a bit hungover, however we had a friends 40th B-Day party to go to...Wow, what a weekend.
Oh yeah,I almost forgot, abortion...Hmmm lets see...Blah, blah, blah, blah...High and Mighty B-B-B-Bullshit!!!
Pro Choice...Have one, don't have one...Other than that...Shut the fuck up!
There are much, MUCH bigger issues to worry about. Like the trillions of dollars spent on illegal and unnecessary wars and hundreds of millions of lives the U.S. has snuffed out...All in the name of American Capitalism!