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Nachos - Actually no, I didn't vote for Obama a second time. And contrary to where Loren Bliss (#27) and many others felt compelled to vote for Obama as "the least bad choice", I decided to make my protest vote as positive as possible and voted for Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party. I felt then and still do, that if enough people who are dissatisfied with our one party system, versions A and B and start voting for credible outsiders it will have a ripple effect through the midterm elections. Over time it might just lead to a viable third party alternative.
I was snookered in by Obama in 2007, was an evangelist for him and even contributed financially to a political campaign for the first time in my life for him. The first red flags were the appointments of Rahm Emannuel as Chief of Staff, Larry Summers as Chief Financial Advisor and Tim Gheitner as Treasure Secretary. This in my opinion, along with other actions and non actions by his administration in his first two years was the principal reason for the backlash of the 2010 midterm elections. But Obama had lost my support long before then and I was beseeching Bernie Sanders' organization to go national and make a run in 2012.
And as an aside to DAnneMarc (Re:#38), you have to see the folly of voting for the "lesser wevil". Sure, If I'd have had clear crystal ball knowledge that Romney would have been elected without my vote for Obama I would have been strongly tempted to vote for Barack. But then when I realized that even under that scenario my vote would be interpreted as actually endorsing his policies, I made my decision to go 3rd party. Knowing that no 3rd party candidate would win I felt that I'd be submitting input as to a better alternative and not endorsing failed policies. I haven't completely given up hope and faith in the American people DAnneMarc, It's just that I've decided to cut my losses and take another direction. Besides, what would have been the worst that could happen if Obama lost? An acceleration of a process that may be inevitable? Not a bad outcome.
Sorry I missed all the action earlier. Y'all have a great weekend. (Don't be scalding yourself Nachos. We need you here;-)
That's why I call it "bipartisanshit" and have ever since Obama first mentioned this proactive surrender, just like Clinton did.
Palindromedary wrote ~ "With microminiaturization anything is possible!"
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Have a great weekend everyone. I'm turning in too. This was fun!
With microminiaturization anything is possible!
Excellent points. Very true. Thank you.
Can't keep my eyes open...Catch-up with you later, have a great weekend. Tomorrow I am installing a 220 line to run my new hot tube...That is the only Pot 'O Bubble'en water I will soak away the day in! ;)
And what about the $3 billion NSA spy center they are building in Utah? There's only one reason why they are building it...and that is to spy on all of us even more effectively than they do now.
By the way, anyone watch Bill Maher show this evening. Bernie Sanders was on and I thought he was going to slug that rude loud-mouthed woman, Abby Huntsman, who cut him off. Sanders had such a look on his face that you could tell he was extremely ticked off. He spent the rest of the show waving and thrusting his hand just inches past her face as he argued with that extremely loud mouthed idiot Steve Moore who sat on the other side of Huntsman. She had to repeatedly grab his hand and push it away. But I sure don't blame Bernie one bit. It's just like the right wing blow-hards to try to shout over someone trying to make a point. I'd be very grateful if Maher didn't have these Fox News flunkies on the show anymore. It was really hard to hear and understand what Bernie was saying. At least, I guess, the audience caught it because they clapped and cheered for Bernie. They had a 19 year walk-on guest who is fighting the Louisiana state over religious issues...he sounded very intelligent. Even he was able to put down that right winger Steve Moore.
MMmmNACHOS ~ JFK stood up for the middle class as well. He isn't as celebrated for it as FDR because his presidency was during a time of boom for the middle class; whereas, FDR's Presidency was during the Great Depression. Granted, FDR did the bulk of the foundation for the economy of the middle class; but, JFK put his life on the line to fight for civil rights, breaking up monopolies and mob controlled cartels, ensuring the solvency of the dollar, and blowing the whistle on Secret Societies. He might not have founded the social safety net; but, he did lose his life earnestly trying to better society for the common man. FDR died of natural causes.
Also, remember that Jack Kennedy was a rich playboy who didn't need to seek public service for wealth.
Jesus once told his disciples,
Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God
Everytime I see the Zapruder film I think to myself:
Verily, with God all things are possible! Behold, the Camel that passes through the eye of a needle!
Certainly, the contribution of JFK has some noteworthiness?
DanneMark, It is half past 1am...I will lookforward to continuing our discussion and banter another time.
ciao.
JFK!?!?LOL!
You tell me...Why you put him in the same catagory as FDR???
One doesn't have to be an active participant in a game of chess to see where the game is headed and what needs to be done. I'd say if anyone was warranted and justified in their fight for freedom, it is the masses of downtrodden people to attain that right here at home where we are all being, and have been for more than 30 years, attacked by the wealthy elite who wants to abolish social programs. We have all seen, over and over again, how the existing corrupt system has made promises just to stab us all in the backs. If our forefathers were all talking the way some people talk now they never would have fought the British. They'd still be bickering and arguing and calling people names. Our forefathers were outgunned by a highly trained and regimented force that lost against colonists who fought bravely and used tactics that would be considered terrorism by some. Hit and run guerrilla tactics, much like what Al Qaida has done in the Middle East is what helped beat the British. Again, you can chide and ridicule those who know where our country is headed and know that nothing else will really work...the forces against us has rigged the game so tightly that there really is nothing else that will work. When animals or even people are backed into a corner and it is apparent that their foe is about to murder them...they have no other choice but to fight. And we are all being backing into a corner and we will, many of us, be murdered by them. It's all a matter of time... very little time. Those people who are smart enough to realize that that is where we are all right now will take cheap shots from the trepidatious many who continue to be fooled into believing that all they have to do is write letters, emails, phone their politicians. But it is just not going to happen. History proves that unless the people really push back and scare the ruling elite into making some real changes... real changes will never happen.
Just wait till they start to Cyprus-ize Canadian and American banks....it will no longer be bank bailouts ... it will be bank robberies from within...but of course, the very wealthy and "connected" ones will get tip-offs and will beat you all to it...just like in Cyprus.
Imagine someone placing an order at MacDonalds, paying the money to the cashier, and when the order arrives the franchise owner comes out and instead of saying "would you like to Super-size that?". He grabs your burger and fries, gobbles down half of it and said "I'm sorry...but I was hungry...I had to Cyprus-ize your burger and fries. Run along now sucker!"
FDR? What about JFK?
Beside DANNEMARC you completely disregard what I was saying to Outback.
Obama had 2 years to live up to his campaign and serve the people that voted for him. Instead he fucked us over and danced for those that greese his pockets.
Yes you are right about Regain, Bush, Bush, Romney...You forgot Clinton though.
We have not had a true leader that represents the core of America...The working middle class and under employed since FDR.
For me I got out of the Pot 'o Bubbl'en water 20 years ago.
MMmmNACHOS ~ I must say I genuinely love your Tenacity. Please stick around. Next election you can lead the way with the Green Party. I'm behind you 100%. I refuse to be tricked again by the DMC Charade (Party).
Like I've said before, I'd rather loose on the side of Righteousness than prevail on the side of popularity.
Kudos! MMmmNACHOS Kudos!
Fool me once shame on you...Fool me twice shame on me.
All you fear voters say the same bullspit...Yet you sit there and flat out complain even though you say you caste your vote for the lesser of two evils...Hows that working out for you???All you fear voters have allowed corporations to hijack our country, by not standing your ground and not defending our country from such swine like Obama and Romney.
What did I do???I hit the streets campaigning for Jill Stein of the Green Party. I also researched Rocky Anderson of the newly founded Justice Party. I called into local community radio talk shows that do not screen callers and allow for open discussions. How did it turn out???Not so good, since Obamney still won. How do I feel???Good, I didn't get fooled again.
MMmmNACHOS ~ As far as voting for Obama. You're damn right I voted for him out of fear of Mitt. Hell, after two Bush's, and Reagan you're damn straight anyone who says, "I don't really care about poor people..." or, "We should let the Banks fully foreclose on homes and let the market recoup the losses." How about, "Oh, I can't remember all three departments of Government I would cut, just education."
Of course, man, we all voted to keep this pompous imbecile away from power far more than to give Obama a seal of approval. We reacted with instinct and not forethought. May I ask you what you did? Stay home?
MMmmNACHOS ~ Please don't get me wrong about this. I firmly believe we are more on the same page than not. Indeed, I feel certain that there is a future awaiting us all where Government will be obsolete and people will be completely self governed. Though, not now.
I cite you're very own quote from Gandhi, "People are not yet ready for the kind of peace that I teach and practice."
I'm not saying you are wrong. All your points are well taken! Your timing is off. Please don't be discouraged. Your model is not unlike the Kingdom of God. Till then we have to tolerate Government.
It's just a practical statement. Fair Competition, Safe Trade, and a Level Playing Field are lofty goals that will never be purely realized because of the corruption of the people that run the Government; not because of the failure of the Government. A taste and hope for justice is better than no justice at all.
Please don't make me defend the Government more than that--it makes me feel soiled and dirty inside.
OUTBACK, Here is where I get aggressive.
So why did you vote for Obamney this election???Assuming that you did.
C'mon your an intellagent guy, you didn't see the writing on the wall during his first two years when he had both the house and the senate in his pocket and still didn't follow through with all his Hope and Change!?!? Let me guess you were afraid of Mitt, so instead of living up to your principles you caste a fear vote...No?
Outback ~ I've found PhilipHenderson's comments to be well thought out. This one is no different. I might suggest you listen to him and give the President the benefit of the doubt. Remember, PhilipHenderson's contention that the lopsided representation--especially in the House of Representatives--prevents a lot of actions that the President can exercise. There is a certain amount of support the Oval Office needs to get things done. The voters will have the opportunity to speak on this issue next year.
On the other hand, raising the debt ceiling with an Executive order to avoid more nonsensical budget cuts to the poor is more than within the reach of President Obama. Let us see how he acts in the coming months before we slam the door on this man. It may not be necessary to wait till 2014 to pass judgement; however, certainly, by 2014 we will know without a doubt where we stand with this Administration, this Democratic Party, this Government, this Nation, and Democracy as a whole.
Let us all hope that hope is still alive; and, proceed from there!
DANNEMARC, You don't need to appologize to me for your perspective...Most people would and do agree with you...and Websters Dictionary. But a single arbitrary definition (especially an ignorant one) is not the end all be all, when discussing philosophy. It would be like me saying Christianity is a violent practice because of the cruisades(.) All religions have a history of violence, but there core foundation (philosophy) does not promote such practices. Yes Anarchy does encourage the dismantleing of "A Conventional Government" but it still values a democratic practice.
I am surprised...I thought that you - a proponent for true Independence and Liberty - would better understand this!
To quote Gahndi; "People are not yet ready for the kind of peace that I teach and practice."
As for a path to justice...To practice justice - true justice - is to right a wrong. That went out the window when King (I can't recall the name) decided to put the burdon on the kingdom (state) rather then to allow peaceful mediation between both parties in order to resolve breaches of civility. Sure we see that (occasionally) in civil suits but for the most part society wants revenge as payment.
Fair Competition!?!?! Safe Trade!?!? A leveling of the playing field!?!?
If only we had had a better understanding for the Native American Indians from the start.