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Kend- You have the right to voice your opinion on any subject you would like to. The point I was making and continue to state is that you seem to find these imaginary people who have failed and expect you to bail them out with your personal taxes! Your taxes are collected and combined with the rest of the taxes we all pay on our homes, businesses and salaries we work for. And for you to verbally blast anyone who is having problems with their home payments, and to automatically imply they took out loans they could not pay back or women who have an abortion is solely based on the fact they did not use birth control or young people who have been saddled with crippling debt by the universities and colleges across our country are at fault because they failed as you have emphatically implied is damn wrong and insulting to me. And, as you have stated you do have a right to comment on anything concerning you and likewise I have the right to reply to your comments that I find vile and obnoxious as I read them. I am open to verbally boxing with you on any subject. But let it be known your point of view is not the only view that will be filled an emotional response. I personally know of women who have had abortions because it was medically necessary and if it wasn't it would still be none of my business or yours. Likewise I have known people who were screwed by the banksters because they were not as apt as I or you in understanding the bullshit the banksters were handing them. As far as young people going to a university or college and the debt they have incurred is so great they will not be able to pay it off for decades. Yes the government should step in and help these people. The home buyers who got screwed and weren't able to enter the housing market when we did and when houses were priced at about 80% less then today and with reasonable interest rates. Or the single mother who cannot support another child and ended up pregnant unintentionally. Yes we should help the young people trying to get an education that will help not only them. But also our nation with another well educated person for our work force. So it is my desire that my taxes go to help people in situations you look upon with disdain. Sorry they were not as lucky or educated as we are and need help as my brother or sister in my society of humans. As far as debt goes my friend look around you and show me a person in any crowd in our society that is not burdened by debt. I prefer my taxes go to fellow Americans that need a hand up to continue and not to fund some banksters third vacation home or a C.E.O.'s next yacht. I do believe in social welfare for those who need it and those that can pay more should pay higher taxes than the guy working on an assembly line. I am an American who believes in social welfare and redistribution of wealth from those who have too much to those who have too little. WE the people means just that, WE THE PEOPLE. Am I my brother’s keeper? Damn straight I am. So if you ever fall and need a helping hand back up to live your life, I truly hope there is a hand to help. This ad has been brought to you by a liberal Independent and an American that believes the government is there to help those in need, not there just to take taxes and buy weapons to support the wealthy industrial war complex that seems to be the largest recipient of federal welfare.....P.S. I guess you won't be going to Mexico after all, they would probably hang you down there.
Let them sign away, it's better than drinking themselves to death. They'll get over it!
I keep hearing a lot of Fox-crap talk about individual freedoms under attack due to an ever increasing welfare state. Individual freedoms are under attack alright, they're under attack due to an austerity economy created by the richman's lie that if he aint taxed everyone benefits.
Choking off revenue and crashing the economy has worked out well for the wealthy business owner looking to take advantage of a desperate workforce being terrorized by either joblessness or the very real prospect of it. Let's see, work your ass off, and still not have anywhere near enough to raise a family and pay the mortgage, and then retire tired, broken, and in poverty, without any of those welfare state entitlements that place such a tax burden on the rich guy that made a fortune off your misfortune, that he created to begin with...... Yeah right PAUL BUDGET MAN, nice try!
Lack of Govt. intervention is why we have lost individual freedom. Govt. is, "We the People," and a few piggish elites have successfully blocked this thing called DEMOCRACY.
Legislate against greed and control those who are unable to control themselves.
Thanks for this report. It is tragic that a similar response has NEVER taken place in the USA.
When people commit suicide in the USA, the major corporate media just doesn't report it much.
Like the War on Terror Vets who commit suicide, mentioned once and then the media is silent, where are major networds treating this as an UNACCEPTABLE and URGENT situation? Even suicides in the USA resulting from the Wall Street and WashingtonDC policies which continue to make desperate families without hope and bleak prospects are not enough to move the cold hearts of the neo-fascist globalists.
It is happening here, but no network is reporting on it. Is that by orders from the "Overlords"?
Ken W I am on topic. Thom was talking about bailing out home owners. I don't think the Govnment should. Of course people don't like to here logic. If you live beyond your means you loose your house. That's it. It is none of my business why women have abortions I just don't want to pay for them. Ken are you suggesting I should have no say in where my taxes go. Oh and by the way Mexico has government health care and education.
David Abbot - The wealthy and the corporations have nothing to fear because they know, as does the government that the Dept. of Home Land Security just bought 350,000,000 rounds of jacketed ammunition and it isn't for target practice! And, since our only borders are with Mexico and Canada it is obvious it is not for use against them. It is for the Millions of Americans that might get the silly idea they can actually do anything about the injustice and crimes against our citizens. We might have weapons, they have a lot more and many empty jails that need filling with bodies to make a profit for those corporations that own them! May I repeat a phrase from a movie I watched long ago; "Badges? Badges, we don't need no stinking badges!" Point being they have the badges and the ammo to back them up. They are not afraid of us; it is we who should be afraid of them. Step out of line and the man will take you away! And that my friend is the reality of today.....
Ken Ware I wonder the same thing, and I wonder also about Dowdotica, who seems to know exactly what all these people are about, what their lives are like, and how they should live them. I wonder if he knows about mortgage lenders' practices like robo signing, or persuading gullible (not necessarily stupid, evil, or greedy) people into buying houses that they really couldn't afford, or selling a house and then changing the terms, or . . . any number of a dozen illegal and unethical methods used to sell people houses. Oh, wait, they were all just trying to buy another cadillac or something, or so Dowd says. And all those women who have abortions--just taking their pleasure and refusing to face the consequences, something like that. Another form of birth control, perhaps, and refusal to take responsibility. And, Dowd, I wonder why you are so judgmental and why you think you are right, since I don't imagine you know, personally, any of these people in foreclosure or any of the women who get abortions since you surely don't consort with those types. May we remind you, you are not god.
One of the two things that banks and other sociopathic corporations fear- and should fear- is people from whom the corporations have stolen jobs, houses, retirement, health care, education, and everything else. Because people who have nothing, have nothing to lose, and people who have nothing to lose can be extremely dangerous to corporations.
So I don't get it: why would corporations continue to steal everything from billions of people around the world, when it is against the corporations' best interests and will lead to corporations losing their money and losing their power?
No, wait. I know why they do it. They do it because they are sociopaths. They are literally incapable of thinking or acting in anyone's best interests; they can't even act in their own best interests. Frozen at the lizard-brain stage of emotional development, they are incapable of controlling their destructive impulses. I don't know, maybe when they were fetuses, their moms were exposed to toxic chemical pollutants that were put into the air, water, and food by corporations. They need to be controlled by government, because when they are not controlled by the government, they steal so much that many people feel their only option is to either kill themselves. And when people are abused so badly that they kill themselves, other people notice. And they get... irritated.
We need government. We need BIG GOVERNMENT, with lots of different agencies- EPA, FDA, FTC, and other very complicated agencies to keep corporations from committing their thousads and thousands of very complicated crimes. And I do mean complicated. Why, even Elizabeth Warren, who was a law professor at Harvard, said that she can't understand all of the tiny little print that the credit card companies send her about her credit cards.
Why do the corporate-owned media and the corporate-owned republicans and the tea party that the corporations lead around by the nose, scream so hysterically about big government? They do it because corporations know that big government can control corporations and force them to stop committing crimes against us.
Which brings me to my advice for Mitt Romney: DUDE, if you really want to be president, you need to have your wife get up on the podium and yell, "We love BIG GOVERNMENT!!! Elect Mitt, and he will give you a HUGE GOVERNMENT that will force Bain Vulture Capital to return the retirement money that they stole, even if it means that I don't get that car elevator for my house!!!"
dowdotica my friend, it seems life has really dealt you a hard life. And you are so angry over where your taxes have been spent because you like Kend know where the money should be spent and not the idiot you voted for! You were able to pay your house mortgage and actually owe some money for the things you and your wife have bought, man that must be tough being able to pay for your home. And why should that mean old government help out another citizen because you have been lucky enough to make it so should they, regardless of the reason! After all you weren't the one cheated by Wall St. on your home, who cares if someone else was! Right on brother don't let that commie government spend any money on its citizens who are in need. Your sound like my kind of good ole' boy red neck republican American, good for you goober!
Sorry, no, there is no evidence bankers committed suicide out of guilt. Some wealthy men who went broke during the Great Depression, seeing nothing in their lives but money, committed suicide, but I don't remember hearing of a single one who after seeing what he'd done to human beings, took their lives.
Kend- I just have to wonder to myself why does an obvious conservative Repub use this blog as a forum to rant on about nothing relevant to the discussion or topic, just to complain about where, in his own wisdom, his taxes should be spent? You remind me of another special commenter, Palindromedary and his ranting. I guess in the real world people probably just walk away when you start in! And now you and your wisdom know why all women have abortions. Really must be hard on you carrying the weight of the nation and not being able to change every problem you see in your world. Or could it be you like most other conservatives just like to bitch and moan about how awful the people around you are and only if they were more like you the world would be a great place to live in! Well, I have a great idea, why don't you move to a country like Mexico where the government does very little for its citizens and you will not be so upset about the free loaders you see the government giving your money too! I would guess the people around you would help you move....Give my regards to Romney if you meet him down south!
In addition to agreeing to keep the 3 afore-named politicos forever, they would also have to trade us the "Territory of Austin" for Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh , and agree to keep them forever too. Austin & SXSW are just too advanced and liberal for Texas. The Donald and The Windbag need to become a naturalized citizens of "The Republic of Texas" - they will fit in perfectly: loud, tacky, obnoxious, typically wrong (on so many levels)...
I confess, I am from Massachusetts and I signed the petition. My first duty station in the Navy was Kingsville, TX It was the home of the King Ranch. Originally I thought it would be cool as I loved Sky King and Penny on my black & white TV every Saturday morning. Until then, I had never been out of the Northeast. My flight arrived in SanAntonio and I took a bus to Kingsville. My first thoughts were I was on a secret mission. I didn't believe the moonscape I saw out my bus' window was part of the US. I soon learned the reason Texans wear ten gallon hats is to fit their fat heads. After nine months, I couldn't get out of there fast enough. Four years later, I had numeous experiences with many Texans and other Confederates. As a "Yankee", none of it was very positive. As hard as they tried, they never won, but after a while you get sick of dealing with it.
Personally, I would go one step further. If Texas needs any incentive, I would throw in most of the former confederacy. Maybe keep VA, NC as they are salvagable and Florida below I 4 as a retirement community for New Yorkers. Think of the benefits. They take $1 of our money for .80 we get back. We give $1.20 for every dollar we get back. Just that fact is worth getting rid of them. We would be the most highly educated UNION workforce in the world. We would have single payer healthcare and good paying jobs. A high tech infrastructure with good roads and bridges. I could go on, but let's be honest, maybe ole Abe didn't do such a good thing. If he had extracated the blacks and let the confederacy go, I contend we would have been and would be, better off. As the famous Texan Ron White says "you can't fix stupid" he ought to know!
I like to feel I am in lockstep with Thom and Bernie most of the time. I was dissappointed yesterday when he seemed to dismiss the idea of Texas leaving. I'm glad he seems to have thought about it and changed his mind.!!!! Like me, he probably can't think of a any legitimate reason to keep them.
my wife and i have been responsible home owners for 20+ years i have only been late on mortgage 2 times and that was only like days. i tow a share of credit debt as well. i do not want my taxes to go for helping the irresponsible who used equity to try to live better then us rather then being responsible. i do not want another jive ass tax credit like the "refundable" first time buyers deal that "we" the responsible paid for a couple years ago to help stim the wasted housing market. I do not want even a first time buyers credit that gets paid back!! If Washington wants to turn the economy around then they need to let folks like my wife and i be tax exempt for a few years like the rich who can manage to weasel out of paying anything all because of the way the code is written. Let them pay the tab for a few years!!! Hell they made the money off folksl ike me anyway!! without us working shlubs? without the gadget gobbers and gluts? without the average working class consumer consuming? think about it, just where would the market be. sure its not in the cards at this very moment but...
So my neighbor bought a ski boat, RV, and a new Hummer and lived way beyond his means and when things went bad he lost everthing and you want my tax dollars to bail him out.
Peolpe don't use birth control and have a unwanted pregancy and you what my tax dollars to pay for a abortion.
My freinds son failed class after class and was in university for 3 more years then he should of and you want my tax dollars to cover his education.
You are kidding right.
all i want? just let my wife and i tap a 200k of the retirement account without penalty or taxes so we can undo the bank chains that bind us! watch how fast we get back to stimulating the economy now that we have a few extra C notes a month to squander! Boy! maybe i could even put some construction folks back to work (jopb creator) doing all the junk on my house, that while liveable, could be a whole lot nicer with some modern upgrades? maybe a kitchen remo? hot-tub and dry sauna? an addition or like a solarium? hhmmm, maybe i'd even buy me a sporty new car. WOW i totally forgot, i could pay the tuition raping that we now pay for my kids educa at berkely!!!uh, what was it? like 300% increase inside of 10 years!!!America the land of the free home of the brave? What a sham that turned out to be huh?lolol
You are right you have to create demand for goods and services. Here in Canada we gave tax breaks to consumers to put in new furnaces, air conditoners, windows etc. I know because I took advantage of it. It helped small business and the enviroment at the same time. The US just wasted billions giving green companies hand outs and as soon as the cheese ran out the companies failed. I can't complain as a Canadian no one has recovered better than us. By the way it was with a converatice Government.
They need to help all the liberals move out of Texas and help all the conservatives move to Texas. They can't have any outside resources, no military, nothing. Let them form their own. We'll see how long it takes them to start bitching and moaning.
you think I am lost because I choose liberty over tyranny. you and all like you are have given up on what made this country great. Just admit it that you are a socialist and you live only for the collective, the federal government and the democratic Party is your master.
You might check your stats. 39% can represent a lot more that 100 people
" And another study out of Princeton University found that for every increase of 100 foreclosures in states like Arizona, California, New Jersey, and Florida, attempted suicides increased 39%."
Bailing out the renters who have already lost their homes would be nice too. We are all just 30 days from eviction- one payment standing between shelter and having the sheriff tear up your place and leave you and your belongings on the side of the road.
In olden times, it used to be the bankers who committed suicide knowing what they'd done to families, widows and orphans.
your wounds wont heal overnite. neither will the country's we had patience while we all paid a more severe tax than the elite. it took time to get into this mess and will be an appropriate recovery period before were out of it. hey does it have to be explained in easier terms to you ? the guys at the front of the traffic are going through the toll booths and using nickles in the quarter basket.!
just as i said before , you just proved that YOU ARE A LOST SOUL. !
I am sure President Obama will stand his ground --Now is the time!! He definately has a mandate.
In the interest of avoiding violence, there really should be some process for secession. I'd want to require at least two consecutive affirmative referenda, say, two years apart, with a threshold of 2/3 of eligible voters (i.e. absolutely everyone above 18). When the first referendum comes back in favor of secession, the state's Congressional delegation immediately becomes non-voting members and the state loses its electoral votes, essentially downgrading it to territorial status. It also cannot receive any federal expenditures during the following two years (not even as foreign aid), and of course no taxes would be collected from it either.