Recent comments

  • Daily Topics - Monday April 5 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Who's watching the Watchmen?

  • How much should the CEO of WellPoint get?   15 years 6 weeks ago

    One day in prison for every dollar received. Fraud is fraud . . . whether or not it is white-collar fraud.

  • Daily Topics - Monday April 5 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Mark K: I was listening to Norman Goldman on Friday, and he observed that the reason that people in the Tea Party movement think Obama is a socialist or a communist is not because he is, as we all know he isn’t—it is because their own positions are so extreme that any position a few yards down the field in the opposite direction seems like communism.

    However, like Ed Schultz, Goldman does have his flaws. Goldman apparently had praised the Pilgrims for being morally aboveboard and the “ideal” of what Americans ought to be. A caller who wanted to correct that perception noted that the Pilgrims were not entirely the epitome of righteousness; in the early years they obtaimed ample assistance from the Native Americans in the region—and when that wasn’t enough, they stole grain that was stored in Indian grave sites to assist the deceased in the next world. Goldman apparently didn’t believe any of this, and subtly demeaned the caller by asking her if she believed everything she read on the Internet (she wasn’t allowed to respond).

    What does the historical record show? It shows that Plymouth chroniclers freely admit to finding “abandoned” corn fields and “freshly buried” baskets of corn in “abandoned” settlements as well as grave yards, the latter perhaps as food for the next world just as the ancient Egyptians buried food with their dead. It is admitted that the Pilgrims helped themselves to these comestibles without asking the owners. The Indian grave robbing charge goes somewhat beyond petty theft, which is why such claims are bound to excite adverse reactions from both the accused and accuser. Commentators from the right and defenders of America’s “heritage” prefer to think that people who point out that white America’s cherished myths are precisely that are engaging in “revisionist” history to appease the “multicultural” element. They would point to Edward Winslow’s account of the settlers who landed at Plymouth Rock (there is some dispute about where they actually landed) as “respecting” one Indian grave site out of fear of sacrilege. Unfortunately for this perspective, there is nothing to revise, since we also have Winslow’s compatriot William Bradford’s contemporary account of a subsequent discovery:

    “When we had marched five or six myles into the Woods and could find no signes of any people, we returned againe another way, and as we came into the plaine ground, wee found a place like a grave, but it was much bigger and longer than any we had yet seene. It was also covered with boords, so as we mused what it should be, and resolved to digge it up; where we found first a Matt, and under that a fayre Bow, and there another Matt, and under that a boord about three quarters long finely carved and paynted, with three tynes or broches on the top, like a Crowne; also betweene the Matts we found Boules, Trayes, Dishes, and such like Trinkets.”

    Yes Norm, they were engaged in grave robbing. We can thus assume that Bradford and his men were of a more sacrilegious bent that what Winslow would suggest. Bradford also mentions encountering an even larger grave site, which they assumed contained even greater “treasure.” He claims they found a corpse with fair hair, and the assumption was that he was a “Christian man.” However, this didn’t stop them from plundering this grave as well.

    Another contemporary account notes that the men of Plymouth defaced the monument of the dead at a site called Passonagesset, robbing the hearse cloth (“two great bearskins”) that was put over the grave of the mother of a local chief named Chickataubut. The chronicler notes that this action upset Chickataubut; after he gave an “oration re vision of mother and appeal re desecration.” He gathered together a band of warriors to wreak vengeance; the chronicler describes the subsequent confrontation as such: “To arms! Plymouth boat landing – ‘battle’ forced them to leave. Chickataubut shot in elbow and fled. All followed.”

    Would we not expect Bradford and Winslow to prefer to put themselves in the best light by being parsimonious with details concerning their activities and motives in regard to the Native Americans, given their belief in their own “Godliness?” It stands to reason. Historians note that Winslow’s religious superstitions in regard to their first encounter with an Indian grave site are the only example in their accounts that suggest that the Pilgrims had any moral or ethical reservations about their dealings with the native inhabitants. Robbing Indian grave sites has had a rather long and sordid history in the U.S., so why wouldn’t the Pilgrims eventually be involved in it too? Defenders of the European invasion like to critique the Native American response as being “unfriendly,” so they had to treat them in a “like manner.” Of course the question then is how would they have feel if their lands were invaded by a unknown people from far across the sea, their food stocks stolen, their sacred sites ransacked? Wouldn’t they fight to protect them too?

  • Daily Topics - Monday April 5 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Mark K: As you may have heard, at a recent Tea Party event Sean Hannity “praised” the partiers as “Timothy McVeigh wannabes.” Hannity had a day before criticized those who would make the comparison, but if he expected his audience to take offense, he was badly mistaken—judging from the crowd’s lusty applause that rather suggested that they approved of this comparison. Meanwhile, as evidence that the mainstream media continues to turn a blind eye to the reality of the Tea Party movement, there was a story in the Washington Post last week which referred to the tea partiers’ (funny how quickly it changed from teabaggers) “ideals” and how they might have to “compromise” in the name of “pragmatism” because it is a “fledgling” movement. The reality is that Tea Party movement is hardly a “fledgling” movement; it is just another name for the right-wing extremists who lay dormant while Republicans are thrashing the country, and then come out of the woodwork when someone left of extreme right is president. As for their “ideals,” we’ve seen this kind of thing before. When Newt Gingrich’s “new breed” of Republican congresspersons took over in the 1994, many of them promised to observe voluntary term limits, leaving after one or two terms. That didn’t happened, did it? They just got greedy just like the rest.

  • Here's a 1967 Flashback: "Gov. Romney Would Quit Church For Social Justice"   15 years 6 weeks ago

    All of us must uphold social justice as part of our lives. With this, abusive people be are grounded on punishment and respect for dignity is upheld. Jesse James Nazi photo marked person's tolerance for sexual abuse.

  • Daily Topics - Friday - March 12th 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Despite o the problems that we are encountering today let us also give ourseles a break! Let us celebrate the April Fools Day!. There's a purpose as to why they call it April Fools Day, and the fool for the year prize is easily awarded for the Hank Johnson Guam remark. Hank Johnson, a Democrat member of the House of Representatives from Georgia, a presumably rational adult, said that if the island of Guam were to get any more overpopulated – the island was going to capsize and sink. An island would tip over…I think I just had a stroke. I'd give extra cash to anyone running against him, but I don't live in Georgia. There just aren't any words.

  • Daily Topics - Thursday - April Fools Day   15 years 6 weeks ago

    We all know that April 1st is April Fools Day-- it's the time of year that pranks, even massive ones, are acceptable, and that means that April Fools pranks are done on the one day where it's acceptable to get someone good. Some of my former favorites were coating a door handle with clear dish soap, the standard jumping out from behind a corner, and the ubiquitous filling shoes with talcum powder – and you don't need payday advances to set up some awesome pranks. A classic for the workplace is to cover a cardboard box with frosting – or the empty pizza box joke.

  • Fox News haters   15 years 6 weeks ago

    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04022010/watch.html
    In the months before his death, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had expanded his focus on racial justice to include reducing economic inequality. On this week's 42nd anniversary of King's assassination, Bill Moyers sits down with attorneys Bryan Stevenson and Michelle Alexander to discuss how far we've really come as a country, how poor and working class Americans have been falling behind and what America must do to fulfill Dr. King's vision.
    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04022010/watch.html

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago
  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Thom, please read this article!

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/China-s-Documentation-of-U-by-Stephen-Lendman-100403-305.html

    America gets the call from a nation with human rights abuses. It documents America's human rights abuses but not all of America's human rights abuses are listed.

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago
  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago
  • AM950 Billboard - Miss Me Yet? Check it out!!??   15 years 6 weeks ago

    I remember the original "miss me" billboard was in Minnesota. Is this the same sign after somebody climbed up there and edited it?

    I like this version better. Minnesota is where they voted in Michele Bachmann, isn't it? What's in the water up there? Minnesota might be emblamatic of the politcal divide in this country, the Minnesota right elects Michele Bachmann while the Minnesota left elects Al Franken. When you contrast these two Minnesota politicians they couldn't be more opposite.

  • AM950 Billboard - Miss Me Yet? Check it out!!??   15 years 6 weeks ago

    I miss Bush because he energized the left. Is that like missing cancer because it made T cells?

  • Fox News haters   15 years 6 weeks ago

    I remember not too long ago an African radio station was investigated for inciting violence between the hutus and tutsis resulting in thousands of gruesome murders. I can't remember the fate of the people involved at the radio station, they may have been sentenced and killed in a tribunal.

    Of course, demonizing liberals and Jews and calling them in effect, heretics, is old history. The Inquisiiton ran in one form or another for over 600 years and systematically targeted heterodox thinkers because independent thought is anathema to Roman Catholic/Nazi and Italian fascisim.

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Personally, I have thought for sometime that the great untapped source for revenue are religions and religious organizations.

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Our son heard Holy Thursday that religions and religious organizations may be taxed. Our government is in short supply of revenue.

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago
  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    It is time to stop the hatred, corruption, and lies.

  • Fox News haters   15 years 6 weeks ago

    The hate must stop somewhere and at sometime.

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    If I were living in the states, I'd love to go buy a Nascar t-shirt and baseball cap and make some bad pun protest sign against Obama or healthcare or something, and head down to a TparT protest and just kinda nudge people and whisper "How much are they paing YOU to do this?"

    One, you'd freak out the real deals, and two, you might actually find some paid protesters.

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    @harry, BTW, your reply to my comment defining terrorism vs environmentalism, I'd have to say I fully agree with. (As Thom would say) Spot on & good on ya.

  • Daily Topics - Thursday April 1 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Was this conversation with Gov. Siegelman on the air? I watch FSTV, was thinking it would be on yesterday, but can't seem to find it.

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    @harry, don't let such experiences discourage use of sarcasm... it is afterall the lowest form of comedy. ;-) (still rather have the 21st century emoticons :-( )

  • Daily Topics - Friday April 2 2010   15 years 6 weeks ago

    Thanks for sharing this. Let's all get out there and support family farmers by buying local and US produce from them, and by providing support in other ways. I love you and your family, Mr. Farmer!

ADHD: Hunter in a Farmer's World

Thom Hartmann has written a dozen books covering ADD / ADHD - Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder.

Join Thom for his new twice-weekly email newsletters on ADHD, whether it affects you or a member of your family.

Thom's Blog Is On the Move

Hello All

Thom's blog in this space and moving to a new home.

Please follow us across to hartmannreport.com - this will be the only place going forward to read Thom's blog posts and articles.