I guess being on Wayne LaPierre's naughty list is better for your health than being on Obamas death panel list.

We are not adapted to a perfect world. We are adapted to an imperfect world and are happiest when we are perfecting it. As Saul Alinsky said, "The happiness is in the pursuit.".

Agreed AliceInWonderland. We are blaming the victims. Jlane however makes a good point with the idea of Supply and Demand. The more workers we have in this country the lower the wages will go. Is that really smart Leadership? Lowering our wages to match Mexico's is not a good idea. Raising Mexican wages to match our own is a good idea.

Not to take sides but I feel that to even address Immigration before repealing free trade is a ridiculous proposal. Sorry AliceInWonderland, I hate to admit when I'm wrong; but I hate being wrong even more. Without ensuring the solvency of our own Labor force, any effort to ease the process of Immigration would be counter intuitive to the cause of Labor on both sides of the border.

My apologizes to everyone. My deepest desperate desire to see the Obama Administration do anything I can get behind has clouded my judgement.

Aliceinwonderland...You know who else has a "Naughty List"???

Noooooo not Santa...

It's the man you voted for! Except if you get on his list your a dead man.
But hey your right President Obamney is waaaaaaaay better then Mitt Robama...At least with Obamney you still can collect some government cheese!

Cheers,
Nachos (with government cheese)

DAnneMarc, Thank you for your honesty. I must be falling short on explaining my positions too because I never meant to say your opinions were worthless. I meant to say that when everyone in this discussion on immigration, I thought we were just posting our opinions and starting to go round and around in circle and not get any further to reaching the truth. So I thought if we bring the discussion back to just the facts we could start moving the conversation/debate forward again. For the record your opinions, in my opinion, are not worthless.

We should listen and critique people like Peter Schiff as opposed to Limbaugh and Hannity. We know those two are kooks but Schiff is an economist putting information out that causes people to fear the loss of all their money and to think the government is just a bunch of boobs (may be some truth to that)

In one of Schiff's rants he says that housing prices going up is not necessarily a sign of an improving economy. He also said lower interest rates may be good for the borrower but it.s not good for the lender. He opens his show praising capitalism but complains that "Obamacare" is charging too much!

I thought that was the goal in capitalism. They seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. As he talked about this needed austerity he said "WAGES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOWERED!!" I bet the regular listeners sail right past that. How does one complain that the middle class does not make enough to pay for healthcare and then say wages have to be lowered.

I think clips from his show getting debunked on your show would go a long way.

Mitt Romney won the Florida primary last night by 15 points over Newt Gingrich. sms lån

Jlane, I've had my fill of immigrant bashing. We need to take a closer look at the REASONS behind so much immigration here from south of the border. Any argument ignoring this critical factor is suspect, from my perspective, and of limited value. Predatory crony capitalism is the disease; illegal immigration is only a symptom of that disease. If we don't take serious inventory of the reason and cause of the problem, we'll never find a solution. You are right to blame the oligarchs and Chamber of Commerce for their role in this scenario. That's where we should be directing our outrage. Had our oligarchs not ruined the economies of countries like Mexico, we would not have so many people coming here illegally.

We need to stop blaming the victims. I have nothing more to say on the subject. - Aliceinwonderland

Where did you get that absolute NONSENSE!? If you think being poor is like that you Fox News types are nuts. Sure there have been attempts to compensate for the injustices through democratic government but they don't even come at all close and only add insult to the injury of poverty making the working poor into charity cases.

The food card that I think you're talking about is just the technologically modernized food stamp program using a magnetized card instead of paper coupons. That people sometimes share their foodstamps with loved ones or sell them to buy clothes or something else they need is an old story of the tragic choices the poor have to make.

NOBODY gets free hospitalization. What the poor get at charity hospital is emergency room care where you have to wait SEVERAL DAYS, sometimes, to be seen by a doctor. If you need a surgery you often have to wait well more than a YEAR and then after an operation are sent out to go home (whether or not you have one) the same day with fresh staples in your abdomen or whatever. Oh, and it's NOT FREE, hell no! It is more affordable but still exorbidant . Of course, anybody can stiff a hospital on a bill and although that ruins your credit rating that may be a choice you have to make.

Yes, the Food Stamp program has always benefitted the grocers and the American farmer and thus has been a great job creator and GOOD for the economy.

And yes, like I said many times on this site before, what businesses,i.e., Walmart and such, don't pay in wages they pay in taxes and if they refuse to do either- like they are doing now - then you have what is happening now, the destruction of the middle class and the pauperization of the working people.

No Kend, I believe the deflection you refer to relates to the real possibility that the Democrats are about to cave on Republican proposed cuts to our paid for social insurance programs. They want to use this money to pay for the DEBT created by the militarization of American capitalism. No one wants to talk about it, but it is real close to happening.

It's kind of like when an older, very stupid, and bigger brother threatens the younger, smaller, but much smarter brother with his fists, and the older one gets his way.

Am I the only one who thinks all of this talk of guns and gays is just a deflection of the real problems in the US. Jobs jobs jobs.

The only ones going well are the politicians .. look a their net worth. Al Gore $100 mill, nancy Pelosi 35 mill, the Clinton's 101 mill. John Mcain 10 million. Obama 12 million. Good money in public service

And so you would turn predatory insurance corpses (corporates) into killing machines (corpses kill by stealing our money--or have you no understanding about the Occupy Movement worldwide??)by requiring native americans and poor woodsmen to pay exhorbitant insurance rates?? Get REAL and think this through without vengeance and absurd delusionary discriminatory nonsense against ALL Americans who responsibly own guns?? What an idiot you are!!