I want so much to vote in favor of humanity. I am an optimist, however, I think things will have to get much worse and it will be too late before humaity will realize the lies that have been spread. Money will be the cause of our demise.
DEATH THROES FOR DEMOCRACY? That maybe is, in part, why viewers find programs like Hartmann's and Maddow [TRMS] entertaining to watch; To see daily reporting on how this epic struggle is unfolding.
Thom there makes a strong case (no mean feat, by-the-way) for (and argueably taking the lead in) what he's described as a decades long process whereby political power eventually shifts, in effect, from capital (Reaganites and/or oligarchs) back towards labor (workers and/or the middle class).
Meanwhile, over on MSNBC [tv]: We've seen (for decades now) how political conservatives have in effect held the ideological high ground, right? Well, no longer, because Rachael Maddow's 'gatling gun' like rapid-fire of potent (in part, Steve Benen powered) counter- arguements effectively supresses the political-rights best talking points, often to the point of embarassment, humiliation and/or disgrace (gays giving as good as they get, huh?)
Yes, conservatives still have mountains of (might-makes-right) cash to go along with their merciless (take no prisoners) approach. So maybe the question is; Is that sustainable and/or for how long?
"we no longer look out for future generations - or care about leaving them a habitable planet. Instead - we care just about short-term profits"
Was there ever a time that we, collectively, gave a rat's ass about future generations and the overall health of the planet? Other than the Ecology Movement in the 60's & 70's, humanity has never looked very far beyond the next quarter.
I'm sure it's much worse now than in the past, but there never really was a "golden age" when everyone's top priority was the future.
Extinction of human species is a 50-50 bet right now. The global warming deniers have the money required to have it their way. They prefer to believe their political leaders rather than the scientists. The political leaders are acting like a religious organization and are poisoning the information stream so that even intelligent folks who ought to trust the scientists refuse to acknowledge the truth.
Are we approaching extinction-level yet? Well, add radiation from Fukushima being dumped...no...leaked into the Pacific, add excess rain from global warming with cesium for example and yes, we are at extinction levels.
Kudos to the 67 Florida county election supervisors, Democratic and Republican, who are standing strong against Scott and his efforts at voter suppression!
Screwing around with a citizens right to vote is the final and ultimate desecration of what's left of our democracy. As a crime against the Constitution, it needs to be dealth with quickly and severely. Scott should not be allowed to buy his way out this time around.
Monkey wrenching the democratic process in this manner is a desperate attempt to gain enough political power in November to maintain control of the supreme court and ram the Ryan budget plan through. If this happens even the most fox-merized among us will be left standing in a stunned state of bewilderment..... with many more, jobless, homeless, and hungry. Almost everyone will be guaranteed old age poverty and unaffordable healthcare.
Here's one idea on how to fight back right now before it's too late. Raise some money, hold bake sales, whatever it takes. With the proceeds buy ad space exposing the Ryan budget plan in your local pennysavers, newspapers, etc. If your representative voted yes, showcase his name and the fact that he's a republican. Get the point across that a vote for him is a vote for the plan. Trust me, most are totally unaware of Ryan and this republican attack on humanity, just as most are unaware of the method Romney has used for self-enrichment. We can thank the corp. mass media for this planned lack of information, so let's take it upon ourselves to inform citizens about the most important issues regarding their general welfare. Publications like pennysavers go locally free to millions of households!
It is sad though that anyone would want to allow Illegal Immigrants, convicted felons, and dead people to vote. It almost appears, through the lack of "working together" that the DOJ wants to make a doorway for all those who do not have the right to vote to do so.
It appears that people want to force a breaking of the constitution by trying to tell a state that they have to concentrate and allow non-citizens, felons, and dead people the right to vote.
The Citizens United v the Federal Election Commission Supreme Court decision of 2010 took away restrictions on and regulations of spending on political and defined money as speech. That is, the freedom to spend money on political ads was equated with freedom of speech. Oligarchic capitalists, the obeisant and uncritical and sophistic libertarians accepted the definition.
Anybody who thinks money is speech believes that people with more money have more a right to be heard than those with less. They apparently believe that "money is truth". If "the solution to bad speech is more speech" - which I believe is true - then if you don't have enough money for "more speech" to counter "bad speech" then the bad speech or fraudulent, false speech prevails.
This is a particarly odious part of capitalism where apparently someone can buy truth. As is said in geopolitics, "truth belongs to the one with the power". In our capitalist and campaign finance system "truth belongs to the one with the money". We live in a situation where anyone with enough money can "buy the truth".
The ideas that no one is ever deceived by bad speech or false campaigning or that those who are fooled - and so, the rest of us - deserve a terrible society because they were gullible or innocent enough to be decieved (and both cannot be simultaneously true, by the way) are absurd on their faces. If the first were true then no one would spend more than the cost of initial basic public information on a political campaign - if that were even necessary since noone could ever be decieved. The second, of course, is just an avoidance of responsibility for what happens in one's own society.
Libertarianism, therefore, is just a slippery evasion of responsibility to one's community.`
According to the voting procedure we can simply say that all of the people are agreed on the fact that our political system is corrupt and we need to see some helpful steps to make it better like before. Regards, 16th birthday invitations
While you could call OWS a grassroots movement, they pointed their anger and frustration generally on Wall Street money-changers who make up a diverse group of independent money makers. It's easier to understand that Tea-Partiers focused on government as a whole who they felt were getting to big for the public good. The OWS movement will only work if they can build a wall between $$$-backed lobbyists and the poiticians. I tend to be a bit more conservative but also believe that in order to get the rich to pay the same tax rates as the rest of us, the loopholes and deductions have to go. I believe all American should pay the same % of their income, whether it's investment or not, for the welfare of the public.
Eectoral process is a formal decision making process. Electoral system is generally related with the election commission.It designed to achieve the proportional representation through voting system.
Lawless rightwing zealots like Scott have obstructed and messed with our democracy beyond all measure and tolerance. "We The People," need to obstruct right back and shut down the worlds of these out of control maniacs. They have made our worlds miserable by pitting worker against fellow worker, making it easy for the wealthy few to pick our pockets clean.
We know who they are, the radical republicans on the Supreme Court, the Kochs, the republican teabagger congress and Governors, Rove, Fox, and the like. It's high time to fight dirty just as they have, ......rise up.....go EXTREME OCCUPY....shut down and obstruct everything we can..... related to who they are and what they stand for.
It's Government of the people, by the people, for the people, not of the Kochs, by the Kochs, and for the Kochs. Unionize every business we can, form cooperatives, barter, bank at local credit unions, buy local, UNITE!
Speaking as a native Floridian with 30 years in and around the landscape and or restaurant business, my daily experience with "illegals" is that they don't even have checking accounts, much less voter registration cards.
The last thing an illegal resident wants is a paper trail, or to fill out any sort of official form, if they even read English. They have their own sub-culture and way of doing business which avoids the mainstream.
It is ridiculous to suggest that there is a voting block of illegal residents. Especially when so many groups of illegals don't even get along with each other. They are busy trying to survive under the radar. These are not people concerned with politics.
An immigrant who has become a citizen is a different case entirely.
unfortunately i had to answer yes to the poll and judging by this question doing exactly what it's asking......the answer is most definitely "yes". i am a big OWS supporter but it will take more "occupying" (i.e. largely populated and never-ending camp outs) in order to garner the type of media attention the movement deserves. OWS can't to just show up on a corner the way the TEA party did and expect media attention; afterall, the TEA party is funded by the same folks who fund our media. OWS will need to force the world to pay attention the way it did last Fall. Otherwise, there is no viable "occupy" movement.
These rightwing nut jobs are on a real power trip. They think they're ten feet tall and bullet proof. I think the Federal Government should sue the State or whatever other options they have to put these egomaniacs in their proper place. Right now they seem to have a God complex. I'm glad the election supervisors have the good sense to ignore this ignoramus, maybe there are still a few sane people left in Florida that understand what voting and democracy are about.
When Floridians fill out their voter registraion cards, they sign it where it states that they "swear or affirm" that they meet the requirements (which includes citizenship in the US and FL). This is the null hypothosis, which means it is accepted UNLESS PROVEN INCORRECT. Then to remove them from the voter rolls, doesn't the state have to go to court, indite them for perjuty, and have it adjudicated by a judge before they can remove them for not being qualified?
What has been strangling the OWS movement is the efforts, primarily by media, to grotesquely narrow the discussion to protecting what is left of the middle class, excluding the post-middle class/poor. Every time OWS/the discussion is defined as being solely about building a protective wall around what's left of the middle class, more and more people are pushed away. I hope we embrace the idea that President Obama discussed in a speech just today, that the focus needs to be turned to REBUILDING the middle class. That means restoring those measures and policies that previously (contrary to post-Reagan rhetoric) actually did just that. Strengthen and grow the middle class to restore the economic and political power -- the power of democracy -- by rebuilding those bridges back into the middle class. We already have millions of Americans in poverty who are job-ready and eager to get back to work, and millions who just need a shot at training/retraining for today's jobs.
I want so much to vote in favor of humanity. I am an optimist, however, I think things will have to get much worse and it will be too late before humaity will realize the lies that have been spread. Money will be the cause of our demise.
DEATH THROES FOR DEMOCRACY? That maybe is, in part, why viewers find programs like Hartmann's and Maddow [TRMS] entertaining to watch; To see daily reporting on how this epic struggle is unfolding.
Thom there makes a strong case (no mean feat, by-the-way) for (and argueably taking the lead in) what he's described as a decades long process whereby political power eventually shifts, in effect, from capital (Reaganites and/or oligarchs) back towards labor (workers and/or the middle class).
Meanwhile, over on MSNBC [tv]: We've seen (for decades now) how political conservatives have in effect held the ideological high ground, right? Well, no longer, because Rachael Maddow's 'gatling gun' like rapid-fire of potent (in part, Steve Benen powered) counter- arguements effectively supresses the political-rights best talking points, often to the point of embarassment, humiliation and/or disgrace (gays giving as good as they get, huh?)
Yes, conservatives still have mountains of (might-makes-right) cash to go along with their merciless (take no prisoners) approach. So maybe the question is; Is that sustainable and/or for how long?
I have a question about this phrase:
"we no longer look out for future generations - or care about leaving them a habitable planet. Instead - we care just about short-term profits"
Was there ever a time that we, collectively, gave a rat's ass about future generations and the overall health of the planet? Other than the Ecology Movement in the 60's & 70's, humanity has never looked very far beyond the next quarter.
I'm sure it's much worse now than in the past, but there never really was a "golden age" when everyone's top priority was the future.
Extinction of human species is a 50-50 bet right now. The global warming deniers have the money required to have it their way. They prefer to believe their political leaders rather than the scientists. The political leaders are acting like a religious organization and are poisoning the information stream so that even intelligent folks who ought to trust the scientists refuse to acknowledge the truth.
Are we approaching extinction-level yet? Well, add radiation from Fukushima being dumped...no...leaked into the Pacific, add excess rain from global warming with cesium for example and yes, we are at extinction levels.
"Because the only thing trickle-down economics produces is a nation of peons."
Then why don't we call it what it is: tinkle-down economics.
You are a real fart smeller! Oops, I mean smart feller!
Kudos to the 67 Florida county election supervisors, Democratic and Republican, who are standing strong against Scott and his efforts at voter suppression!
Screwing around with a citizens right to vote is the final and ultimate desecration of what's left of our democracy. As a crime against the Constitution, it needs to be dealth with quickly and severely. Scott should not be allowed to buy his way out this time around.
Monkey wrenching the democratic process in this manner is a desperate attempt to gain enough political power in November to maintain control of the supreme court and ram the Ryan budget plan through. If this happens even the most fox-merized among us will be left standing in a stunned state of bewilderment..... with many more, jobless, homeless, and hungry. Almost everyone will be guaranteed old age poverty and unaffordable healthcare.
Here's one idea on how to fight back right now before it's too late. Raise some money, hold bake sales, whatever it takes. With the proceeds buy ad space exposing the Ryan budget plan in your local pennysavers, newspapers, etc. If your representative voted yes, showcase his name and the fact that he's a republican. Get the point across that a vote for him is a vote for the plan. Trust me, most are totally unaware of Ryan and this republican attack on humanity, just as most are unaware of the method Romney has used for self-enrichment. We can thank the corp. mass media for this planned lack of information, so let's take it upon ourselves to inform citizens about the most important issues regarding their general welfare. Publications like pennysavers go locally free to millions of households!
It is sad though that anyone would want to allow Illegal Immigrants, convicted felons, and dead people to vote. It almost appears, through the lack of "working together" that the DOJ wants to make a doorway for all those who do not have the right to vote to do so.
It appears that people want to force a breaking of the constitution by trying to tell a state that they have to concentrate and allow non-citizens, felons, and dead people the right to vote.
The Citizens United v the Federal Election Commission Supreme Court decision of 2010 took away restrictions on and regulations of spending on political and defined money as speech. That is, the freedom to spend money on political ads was equated with freedom of speech. Oligarchic capitalists, the obeisant and uncritical and sophistic libertarians accepted the definition.
Anybody who thinks money is speech believes that people with more money have more a right to be heard than those with less. They apparently believe that "money is truth". If "the solution to bad speech is more speech" - which I believe is true - then if you don't have enough money for "more speech" to counter "bad speech" then the bad speech or fraudulent, false speech prevails.
This is a particarly odious part of capitalism where apparently someone can buy truth. As is said in geopolitics, "truth belongs to the one with the power". In our capitalist and campaign finance system "truth belongs to the one with the money". We live in a situation where anyone with enough money can "buy the truth".
The ideas that no one is ever deceived by bad speech or false campaigning or that those who are fooled - and so, the rest of us - deserve a terrible society because they were gullible or innocent enough to be decieved (and both cannot be simultaneously true, by the way) are absurd on their faces. If the first were true then no one would spend more than the cost of initial basic public information on a political campaign - if that were even necessary since noone could ever be decieved. The second, of course, is just an avoidance of responsibility for what happens in one's own society.
Libertarianism, therefore, is just a slippery evasion of responsibility to one's community.`
Why did you vote Republicans ?
Purge Scott!!!
According to the voting procedure we can simply say that all of the people are agreed on the fact that our political system is corrupt and we need to see some helpful steps to make it better like before. Regards, 16th birthday invitations
While you could call OWS a grassroots movement, they pointed their anger and frustration generally on Wall Street money-changers who make up a diverse group of independent money makers. It's easier to understand that Tea-Partiers focused on government as a whole who they felt were getting to big for the public good. The OWS movement will only work if they can build a wall between $$$-backed lobbyists and the poiticians. I tend to be a bit more conservative but also believe that in order to get the rich to pay the same tax rates as the rest of us, the loopholes and deductions have to go. I believe all American should pay the same % of their income, whether it's investment or not, for the welfare of the public.
Eectoral process is a formal decision making process. Electoral system is generally related with the election commission.It designed to achieve the proportional representation through voting system.
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Lawless rightwing zealots like Scott have obstructed and messed with our democracy beyond all measure and tolerance. "We The People," need to obstruct right back and shut down the worlds of these out of control maniacs. They have made our worlds miserable by pitting worker against fellow worker, making it easy for the wealthy few to pick our pockets clean.
We know who they are, the radical republicans on the Supreme Court, the Kochs, the republican teabagger congress and Governors, Rove, Fox, and the like. It's high time to fight dirty just as they have, ......rise up.....go EXTREME OCCUPY....shut down and obstruct everything we can..... related to who they are and what they stand for.
It's Government of the people, by the people, for the people, not of the Kochs, by the Kochs, and for the Kochs. Unionize every business we can, form cooperatives, barter, bank at local credit unions, buy local, UNITE!
That's what I think!
Speaking as a native Floridian with 30 years in and around the landscape and or restaurant business, my daily experience with "illegals" is that they don't even have checking accounts, much less voter registration cards.
The last thing an illegal resident wants is a paper trail, or to fill out any sort of official form, if they even read English. They have their own sub-culture and way of doing business which avoids the mainstream.
It is ridiculous to suggest that there is a voting block of illegal residents. Especially when so many groups of illegals don't even get along with each other. They are busy trying to survive under the radar. These are not people concerned with politics.
An immigrant who has become a citizen is a different case entirely.
unfortunately i had to answer yes to the poll and judging by this question doing exactly what it's asking......the answer is most definitely "yes". i am a big OWS supporter but it will take more "occupying" (i.e. largely populated and never-ending camp outs) in order to garner the type of media attention the movement deserves. OWS can't to just show up on a corner the way the TEA party did and expect media attention; afterall, the TEA party is funded by the same folks who fund our media. OWS will need to force the world to pay attention the way it did last Fall. Otherwise, there is no viable "occupy" movement.
These rightwing nut jobs are on a real power trip. They think they're ten feet tall and bullet proof. I think the Federal Government should sue the State or whatever other options they have to put these egomaniacs in their proper place. Right now they seem to have a God complex. I'm glad the election supervisors have the good sense to ignore this ignoramus, maybe there are still a few sane people left in Florida that understand what voting and democracy are about.
Excuse me, but us southern men don't need you around, anyhow.
When Floridians fill out their voter registraion cards, they sign it where it states that they "swear or affirm" that they meet the requirements (which includes citizenship in the US and FL). This is the null hypothosis, which means it is accepted UNLESS PROVEN INCORRECT. Then to remove them from the voter rolls, doesn't the state have to go to court, indite them for perjuty, and have it adjudicated by a judge before they can remove them for not being qualified?
How many undocumented people voted in '08 or '10?
What has been strangling the OWS movement is the efforts, primarily by media, to grotesquely narrow the discussion to protecting what is left of the middle class, excluding the post-middle class/poor. Every time OWS/the discussion is defined as being solely about building a protective wall around what's left of the middle class, more and more people are pushed away. I hope we embrace the idea that President Obama discussed in a speech just today, that the focus needs to be turned to REBUILDING the middle class. That means restoring those measures and policies that previously (contrary to post-Reagan rhetoric) actually did just that. Strengthen and grow the middle class to restore the economic and political power -- the power of democracy -- by rebuilding those bridges back into the middle class. We already have millions of Americans in poverty who are job-ready and eager to get back to work, and millions who just need a shot at training/retraining for today's jobs.
Why let anyone in florida "vote"?