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get out the torches and pitchforks. that just might send a message.
(I'm not suggesting violence; I am advocating PR imagery. we need to sell our message without any confusion. to an aristocracy it doesnt get much clearer than that.)
someone has to say it...
Persons cannot own persons.
Persons are not property.
Persons can own property.
Persons can own corporations.
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Property cannot own persons.
Corporations cannot own persons.
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Property are not persons.
Corporations are not persons.
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logicical example: If corporations are persons then they cannot be owned, bought, sold or traded by any of: persons, property or other corporations. clearly coprorations are owned, bought, sold and traded by all of the above therefore corporations are property.
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Property is not a stakeholder in our society; it is a stake to be held.
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People are responsible for their property. The people at fault are the owners.
PRAY: We Believe
By Dom Helder Camara
I will not believe in the law of the strongest,
In the language of guns,
In the power of the powerful.
I want to believe in the right of all,
In the open hand,
In the strength of the non-violent.
I will not believe in race or riches.
In privileges,
In the established order.
I want to believe that all human beings
Are human beings
And that the order of force and of injustice
Is a disorder.
I will not believe that I don't have to concern myself
With what happens far from here.
I want to believe that the whole world
Is my home, the field that I sow,
And that all reap what all have sown.
I will not believe that I can combat oppression out there
If I tolerate injustice here.
I want to believe that what is right
Is the same here and there
And that I will not be free
While even one human being is excluded.
I will not believe that war and hunger are inevitable
And that peace is inaccessible.
I want to believe in the love of bare hands,
In peace on earth.
I will not believe that any effort is in vain.
I will not believe that the dream of human beings
Continues being only a dream
And that death is the end.
But I dare to believe in the dream of God:
A new heaven, a new earth
Where justice reigns.
Polls show 55% oppose Obamacare. Thom called the Judge's decision undoing the will of the people. Gee really, how exactly is that. Did we the people get to vote on this. NOPE, it was imposed on the entire country by one party, despite the fact that almost every poll in the country showed that the majority of Americans, although they wanted health care reforms, didn't want Obamacare. The results of the fall elections amply demonstrated THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. Pubs have been accused of being the Party of NO well the Dems are the Party of Ram it Down Your Throat, or the Party of We Know What's Best For You. On the subject of constitutionality Thom. In 1920 when Americans wanted to pass a national law like banning alcohol nationwide, it was done by Constitutional Amendment. In the 1930s the process of Federal lawmaking was changed to passing Congressional Acts. And now to pass Obamacare a budgetary tool called "Budget Reconciliation" was used, that's how far we've gotten away from the Constitution. Here's a suggestion THOM go read Senate report 93-549 and then come back and tell me this country doesn't operate outside the Constitution by using Emergency Powers, this State of Emergency was continued on Sept 14, 2001 by GW Bush and has been in effect ever since, Obama extended it in Sept of 2010 source wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act . This abuse of power started with FDR, was continued by every other Democratic and Republican President. Thom it's why since WWII Congress no longer "Declares" wars, a President can simply go to war by "Resolution" and a Resolution is not a law. It is also why Executive Orders or Presidential Decrees have the full force and effect of law.
Alas for you lawyers, doctors of the Law. Do what is just and right or bring down Robert Fleming Coal Mine 1F and Carlyle Omuta Coal Mine 17F upon your own Heads.
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I favor health care or Medicare for all Americans because I am a Democratic Socialist. We need more Socialism in this country. We could pass a bill into law that says Medicare for all but individuals and families can opt out of the Medicare if they wish. I do not want people in any plan that makes them feel uncomfortable. I AM VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH MY MEDICARE PLAN. LONG LIVE MEDICARE!!!!!
I don't think hate has anything to do with it. If we allow the government to force us to buy something, where does it end? The wording is so messed up. Everyone can get "health care." It is against the law for hospitals to turn people away. The issue is with "health insurance."
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"He pledged he will end President Bush’s failed education program No Child Left Behind"
Dear Louise and Thom,
Obama does give a great speech. So. By his actions he has done pretty much the opposite of what he said he would do with a couple of rare exceptions. Even though he talked of replacing "No Child Left Behind" he did not "pledge it" and he still used the same old tired indusrial competiveness frame that it was built on. As a matter of fact those changes were the result of legislation he was practically forced to sign. IT WASN'T HIS IDEA AND HE PRETTY MUCH FOUGHT IT ALL ALONG. In fact that legislation was waiting for him! Don't pretend you don't know that game: Call it something different... but do what you please anyway... He is a master of that... The entire frame of the speech was "corporate competitiveness' and that includes his spin on education. And, that's all it is, just spin! And you regurgitate it with rock solid conviction. Please, know what you are talking or writing about... I heard the speech. I am an educator and I have been fighting "No Child Left Behind" for years.
Thom, as for your "Medicare for everyone," I told you he is going to rip it up, he has no other choice given his stated political-economic priorities. This is what he said: "This means further reducing health care costs, including programs like Medicare and Medicaid, which are the single biggest contributor to our long-term deficit."
I'm going to have to drop you as well like some of the other people in here. I can't handle your Obama schizophrenia anymore. When you figure out where you stand maybe you'll start making more sense. Oh, and BTW, just a hint, if I really wanted to know what the wingnuts are saying, I'd listen to them. As it is. I don't. You radio shills just keep bouncing back and forth with your "He said, she said..." I know, you all are just trying to raise your ratings with all that phoney drama. Did you ever hear what John Stewart said about "Crossfire." What he said!
Bye!
Thom, Here in Puddle City many of us are proud to believe that the mandatory insurance gouge is not a solution, but a sorry "bend-over" to an industry that does not provide care, that feeds [30% overhead for CEO salaries?] off the blood and money of the ill. I support single payer; I reject the faulty 'logic' that these rationiers, these parasites should exist in America.
I attended the Town Hall meeting that Gov. Dean and Rep Blumenauer held at PCC in July, 2010. I could NOT get an invitation because I support Single Payer. We were locked ou; although enough of us infiltrated to cause the sham of a town hall to be disrupted.
Like the illogic of the Right, who love Gov. Bush's deficits; the current brou-haha relies on the people to rekindle American socialism and force idiots like the Koch Brothers-who are not normal Americans with their over $35 Billion wealth, to understand that Single Payer is the logical way to limit costs and remove industries that "care" only for profits! Mr Baucus, who stated that "France and Germany, Japan and Taiwan are not America" missed the point! America's medicine and care are infected with a terminal case of greed and little compassion. We're not number one: this is not football, we're victims of health, education, banking, and marketing that is a short term ONLY Wall Street wet dream.
Maybe, as my friend Teresa says, "loving America leaves me thinking I should see other people."
I am pretty much in agreement with richrobey
Thom offers great information and he makes more sense than the majority of our fascist-Nazi citizens.
I was listening to Thoms rant tonight on health care . His discourse was very slanted and misleading. he hawks a plan written by the insurance companies (anyone believe we are going to come out ahead in that?) then continues to show on a graph that the number of uninsured will actually increase. That may be true if the Republicans did nothing but repeal the present plan. Anyone seriously believe at this point they would repeal the present plan and do nothing else? Please. I'm not a big Republican fan either ( I didn't vote for either of the major parties for president) but this disinginuous nonsense from both sides is really exasperating! It really is true they are both giving us the hose. Two wings of the same Demopublican bird.
I believe Obama is two steps ahead of the Republicans. The leaders of the Democrats did not want to put a single payer on the table or even discuss it. They were hoping that the Republicans would have Obama care declared unconstituional. The next presidential election will be won when the Democrats support a single payer health care insurance after millions of people will die because they can not buy insurance or the insurance companies really raise their premium so only the rich can afford insurance. The American people will demand change so all people are covered and there will be no more for profit insurance companies.
Forcing people to buy insurance for health is a bad idea. I am not forced to buy auto insurance if I don't have a car. If I don't own a house or if it is all paid for I am not forced to buy fire insurance. I am forced to pay taxes to pay for fire protection. I should be forced to pay taxes to pay for health protection for myself and my neighbors. Setting up tax on income to support a single payer would be constitutional just as Social Security is.
Would you like to be in the position of getting healthcare only when you are going to an emergence room? Already very sick?? Is your heart as solid as granite?
Logic is outstanding here. The Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled the Family Research Council as a hate group, therefore, the Family Research Council is a known hate group. Something doesn't compute.
I don't understand your point. If those without insurance are getting served in the emergency room, and the cost is being absorbed by those with insurance, isn't that the same as those with insurance paying taxes to redistribute income for insurance to those that do not have it.. Seems like net gain is 0, and don't expect the emergency room to be any less busy.
All I know is that for signing on the dotted line for serving our country veterans were promised medical coverage. And now thanks to the
Bush crime syndicate its all co-pay now. I wouldn't mind paying some of my way, but were are the promises that were made then when they
asked us to stand up? Thanks for nothing! "Why are the people in this country so content,"Linda? Its becaue of the ME syndrome, if it doesn't
affect or concern me than !@#$ it. Very few of those fat hemaroids sitting on theri lazy boys can see just how intrinsically the thread of life webs
itself through ALL our lives and just how we are all connected. I do not like a lot of this law and the fact that I continue to be unemployed will only
mean that I will not be able to purchase even a most basic level of coverge.
I agree with johnuw93. This Supreme Court won't vote this individual mandate as unconstitutional. Four of the five might descent but one of the conservative judges will vote the other way because they know what their corporate taskmasters really want, and that's the individual mandate so they can get all the healthy young people paying premiums. The insurance giants aren't stupid. They could see a single-payer crises coming as more and more people couldn't afford their product. They're getting just what they want with a few minor exceptions. This whole debate has been nothing but a clever ruse by the insurance companies. We should be taking bets on which conservative judge will take one for the corporate team.
Healthcare is far from being rammed down the peoples throat in America. In fact most uninsured Americans are afraid to go to the emergency room for treatment. Yes they are obligated to treat you but they are also obligated to get your billing address and send you a bill more expensive than normal because it is ER. I know this to be true by personal experience. I am a self employed advertising professional and have been for 30 years. My wife was a stay at home mom until she returned to school and received her RN degree. Our coverage was AETNA and since my wife has a history of cancer we selected what we thought was undeniable fool proof coverage (very expensive). My wife became sick lost her own HMO with the hospital she worked for. After a few years of not feeling well and not being diagnosed accurately my wife of 41 years was discovered to have extensive cancer that required an aggressive treatment program of several surgeries, radiation therapy, and chemo. We started getting bills from hospitals, clinics and doctors that were completely denied by AETNA. We appealed to the Insurance commissioner who did nothing to help us. He was a conservative Republican probably on the take. We got attorney's and made ourselves more financially vulnerable. At about this time we were in over our heads and headed towards bankruptcy on a rocket sled. I don't believe we are an isolated story. Health care reform will not break the bank
as much as the military industrial complex which is already significantly larger than every other nation including our closest military competitor. What will we gain by bankrupting our citizens individually for healthcare ? Makes no Sense. Chile is sounding better every day.
I don't think the constitutional challenges will go anywhere. The SC will have to think about what else might be affected by an adverse ruling. They also would be inclined to side with the interests of the big corporations that are quite pleased with the individual mandate. In a better world, the Court would indeed rule the individual mandate unconstitutional and Congress would deliver single payer instead.
Senator Graham and others have introduced legislation to allow states to opt out of the individual mandate, the employer mandate, and the expansion of Medicaid. That would pretty much gut the legislation. I doubt such a bill would get by the Senate, but we have to hope Obama would not sign it if it did.
As for the argument made up the list that the people rejected the health care reform bill, to some extent, true. But the reason is that a big share of us wanted single payer, or at least a public option. Polls showing opposition to Obama's corporate-friendly reform are no endorsement of the Tea-Baggers.
I am liberal, in most things, and I voted for Obama. But that farce of a health care bill deserves to go to hell, right along with the wimps that sold us out, because it did not include an alternative to the private healthscam insurance companies. The Democrats deserve to have this thing rammed right up their back sides because they didn't have the cajones to back their brazen pre-election convictions they sold us on. This health care bill was not "change we can believe in" it was a sell-out. If in Egypt, why not here?!!!
When people start dying off in numbers and starving to death, then, maybe here. It won't be long till that happens...unless the rich take heed and see what could happen here. The health care bill, as it is now, would force us to pay these criminal "insurance" companies at their ever increasing rates. If we at least had a public option then it would have made all the difference. But that would have forced real competition with the criminal insurance companies...something they have, over the years, managed to monopolize. Too big to fail...monopoly...something our government had previously worked to prevent. Our problems will not be overcome by the ballot box. It's too rigged and criminally controlled by the vested interests of the wealthy. If in Egypt, why not here?!!!! Our system is just about as corrupt as Mubarak's...only we still have the failing pretense of a "democracy".
I am tired of people like the Koch brothers funding an art museum with a big donation or giving to some big hospital wing to make the public think that they are these grandeous humanitarians when actually they are the biggest polluters of this planet that history has ever known. The Koch brothers have this man named Tim Phillips working for them. His job is to spread lies and controversy about everything from the Affordable Care Act to that Global Warming doesn't exist. He gets paid mega bucks for this. I am tired of people like the Koch brothers being able to buy the Media and our Government to make all these lies seem absolutely true to the public. Please let us wake up. Government has always had its faults, but this new demention of Corporate take over is destroying us financially . enviromentally and right down to our very own minds and bodies. They have got to be stopped by educating the people of what they are doing and how they are doing it. Please, Thom ,please keep ranting and raving and educating the people of the USA!
NO.
I do believe the requirement is unconstitutional. Having said that, I also believe we need a national health care option. If it is integrated into Medicare and run with the same efficiency, it wil put the health care billionaire predators out of business. Pricing struture for a government plan would be based on income.
Also, if we would enforce anti-trust laws, health care would become more competitive and therefore more affordable. Private companies should not be afraid to compete with the government. After all, their mantra is the inefficiency of government. Let them prove they can do better by delivering a higher quality product at a better price.
We do have socialism in this country....corporate socialism for the Fortune 500 companies and big dollar contributors to the re-election campaigns of our "public servants".