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Hmmm - looks like there are TWO blog pages running today ... some folks are posting on the WEEKLY blog page, here -
http://www.thomhartmann.com/2010/03/13/highlights-on-the-show-march-15-1...
mstaggerlee,
That's the blog for yesterday...
Ron,
Next question --- WHAT middle class???????
Now it looks like we've got 2 blog pages for today - lotsa folks are also posting on yesterday's page.
http://www.thomhartmann.com/2010/03/17/daily-topics-wednesday-march-17th...
Gonna go link this page over there, too.
Ron,
Re: "You do get a basic deduction and corporations don’t. Their’s is based on profit, what is yours?"
How about "income?" God knows, though, since Reagan, income for the middle class has continuously deteriorated.
@mstaggerlee, HFCS makes you fat and hungry? Well why wouldn't Big Food want to stop that immediately? Why on earth would Big Food possibly want fat hungry (increasingly diabetic) people? Heck, they may even start limiting hormones in animals because its possible that its causing hormonal problems in humans, and also stop giving anti-biotics to animals because that may be creating super strains of illnesses that may just come back and bite us in the butt. Really once someone points this out to them, there will really be no need for regulations, we can trust that they will produce a superior healthy product and not concern themselves about the bottom line.
Just ask any Republican, they'll back that sentiment up.
NY Times reports that:
Taliban Hit Back in Marja With a Campaign of Intimidation
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/world/asia/18afghan.html?pagewanted=1&hpw
KABUL, Afghanistan — The Taliban have begun waging a campaign of intimidation in Marja that some local Afghan leaders worry has jeopardized the success of an American-led offensive there meant as an early test of a revised military approach in Afghanistan.
The Taliban tactics have included at least one beheading in a broader effort to terrorize residents and undermine what military officials have said is the most important aim of the offensive: the attempt to establish a strong local government that can restore services. The offensive ousted the Taliban from control of their last population center in southern Helmand Province, but maintaining control over such territory has proved elusive in the past.
Though Marja has an occupation force numbering more than one coalition soldier or police officer for every eight residents, Taliban agitators have been able to wage an underground campaign of subversion, which residents say has intensified in the past two weeks.
“After dark the city is like the kingdom of the Taliban,” said a tribal elder living in Marja, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of the Taliban. “The government and international forces cannot defend anyone even one kilometer from their bases.”
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Then they repeat the canard that:
Mr. Zahir said the Taliban also regularly issued “night letters,” posted at mosques or on utility poles, warning against such collaboration, and often intimidated residents into providing them with shelter and food, even in densely populated neighborhoods of the city, which has a population of 80,000.
@textynn -
Whachoo talkin' bout, Willis? I've been getting even more mail than usual from MoveOn.org over the past 2 weeks or so.
@ZeroG -
You're welcome. :)
Shaddegg lies thru his teeth -
"And, unlike the Democrats plan, it will not force you to give up the health care coverage you currently have if you choose to keep it!"
How many times have we heard Obama say "If you like your current health plan, YOU KEEP IT!"?
"The Improving Health Care for All Americans Act dramatically expands the insurance pools Americans can select to join by allowing churches, alumni associations, trade associations and other civic groups to set up new insurance pools and offer affordable health care packages to their members."
Like we can't do this already??!! I have personally been covered, in the past, by group health care plans implemented by the IEEE (an engineering trade association), and a Credit Union.
"PRE-EXISTING AND CHRONIC CONDITIONS COVERED AT AFFORDABLE RATES."
Likewise under the bill currently under consideration.
The 10 most frightening words in the English Language -
"I'm from the Republican Party, and I'm here to help".
Simple question for John Shadegg:
Have you signed on to co-sponser HR 676 or are you just blowing smoke out of your a$$.
@Nels -
Partially hydrogenated oils (AKA trans-fats), are already on the road to passe, as that became a popular cause a couple years ago. Good thing, too, as the process by which oils are hydrogenated involves the gasification of a heavy metal (usually lead), which is then bubbled thru the oil. The business advantage of trans-fats is extended shelf-life. As far as the disadvantages go - well, how does lead poisoning strike you?
HFCS, however, will be considerably harder to get Big Food to eliminate. "It makes you fat," apparently isn't a convincing enough argument by itself, and the process by which the digestion of HFCS causes the body to become hungrier is too complex to explain in a 15-second sound-byte.
I have a few questions.
If corporations are people then can I deduct my health care costs as maintenance costs ?
If corporations are people can I deduct all my living expenses like corporations deduct their costs of doing business? Like food and gas are things I need to run my overhead.
I say go for it...
You do get a basic deduction and corporations don't. Their's is based on profit, what is yours?
Note to progressives: According to Jane Hamsher yesterday on the radio, MoveOn is running ads in Ohio to get rid of Kucinich because he’s against ObamaCare. I knew MoveOn has been co-opted by the White House but this is disgusting.
Well the munchkin buckled under pressure and Thom is all tingly on his leg about that. Well, at least we know the true powers in the Demos party.
From John Shadegg's own website:
Republicans Introduce: The Improving Health Care for All Americans Act
“Until now, health care reform proposals have centered on giving more control to government at the expense of patients and their physicians. Government doesn’t belong in the doctor’s office and should not decide what kind of health care you can get. If you’re happy with what you have, my bill ensures you can keep it – and if you aren’t there are options available to you.”
Washington, Jul 14, 2009 -
From the Offices of:
Congressman John Shadegg (AZ-03)
Congressman Rob Bishop (UT-01)
Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (TN-07)
Congressman Michael C. Burgess, M.D. (TX-2)
Congressman Trent Franks (AZ-02)
Congressman Phil Gingrey, M.D. (GA-11)
Congressman Pete Hoekstra (MI-02)
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Republicans Introduce: The Improving Health Care for All Americans Act
“Until now, health care reform proposals have centered on giving more control to government at the expense of patients and their physicians. Government doesn’t belong in the doctor’s office and should not decide what kind of health care you can get. If you’re happy with what you have, my bill ensures you can keep it – and if you aren’t there are options available to you.”
Washington, Jul 14, 2009 -
From the Offices of:
Congressman John Shadegg (AZ-03)
Congressman Rob Bishop (UT-01)
Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (TN-07)
Congressman Michael C. Burgess, M.D. (TX-26)
Congressman Trent Franks (AZ-02)
Congressman Phil Gingrey, M.D. (GA-11)
Congressman Pete Hoekstra (MI-02)
Taken from: http://johnshadegg.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=137323
Republicans Introduce: The Improving Health Care for All Americans Act
“Until now, health care reform proposals have centered on giving more control to government at the expense of patients and their physicians. Government doesn’t belong in the doctor’s office and should not decide what kind of health care you can get. If you’re happy with what you have, my bill ensures you can keep it – and if you aren’t there are options available to you.”
Washington, Jul 14, 2009 -
From the Offices of:
Congressman John Shadegg (AZ-03)
Congressman Rob Bishop (UT-01)
Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (TN-07)
Congressman Michael C. Burgess, M.D. (TX-26)
Congressman Trent Franks (AZ-02)
Congressman Phil Gingrey, M.D. (GA-11)
Congressman Pete Hoekstra (MI-02)
Taken from Shadegg's own website. http://johnshadegg.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=137323
Grayson's 3 1/2-page "Medicare for All" Bill Gets Huge Support - Part 2
Rep. Alan Grayson's "Medicare for All" petition to sign:
www.wewantmedicare.com
Grayson's 3 1/2-page "Medicare for All" Bill Gets Huge Support - Part 1
Rep. Alan Grayson has presented a short bill opening up Medicare to everyone. Video:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31510813/ns/msnbc_tv-the_dylan_ratigan_show#...
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
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Ron Rutherford March 15th, 2010, 12:34 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
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Ron Rutherford March 15th, 2010, 12:35 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Sorry, not formated right the first time.
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
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Ron Rutherford March 15th, 2010, 12:35 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Sorry,
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
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Ron Rutherford March 15th, 2010, 1:32 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Sorry,
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
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Ron Rutherford March 15th, 2010, 1:32 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Sorry,
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
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Ron Rutherford March 15th, 2010, 1:33 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Oh, can’t take criticisms, I see…
Sorry,
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
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kim March 15th, 2010, 2:27 pm
Ron Rutherford — What is it you are trying to say? Your point is unclear.
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Ron Rutherford March 15th, 2010, 3:05 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
That Ralph Nader is just a useful idiot as he scapegoats “the oil industry” for not having solar power up. Well, we recently witnessed that solar panels were blocked in the Mojave desert and it was not “big oil” that stopped it. When it comes down to it, it is environmentalists that block most projects that I have seen.
Why do you think that is???
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Justin March 15th, 2010, 3:23 pm
Thom,
You keep saying “Cesar Chavez,” but I think you mean “Hugo.” And he’s more “socialist” and “populist” than “terrorist.” He’s using Venezuela’s oil revenues to help the people.
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Ron Rutherford March 16th, 2010, 8:42 am - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Thom,
You keep saying “Cesar Chavez,” but I think you mean “Hugo.” And he’s more “socialist” and “populist” than “terrorist.” He’s using Venezuela’s oil revenues to help the people.
And he is doing a lot to hurt the “people” in Venezuela. If he is not careful he will end up with another mess like Zimbabwe…
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Ron Rutherford March 17th, 2010, 12:36 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
” Thom,
You keep saying “Cesar Chavez,” but I think you mean “Hugo.” And he’s more “socialist” and “populist” than “terrorist.” He’s using Venezuela’s oil revenues to help the people.”
And he is doing a lot to hurt the “people” in Venezuela. If he is not careful he will end up with another mess like Zimbabwe…
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Ron Rutherford March 17th, 2010, 12:36 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
#
Ron Rutherford March 17th, 2010, 12:38 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Oh, can’t take criticisms, I see…
Sorry,
Quote: The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. — Ralph Nader Great quote there Thom.
Must explain the reasons why no solar in the Mojave Desert and the Kennedy’s are patsies for the “big oil”. Do they not own the wind also???
You sound like your useful idiots more each day…
#
Ron Rutherford March 17th, 2010, 12:38 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
That Ralph Nader is just a useful idiot as he scapegoats “the oil industry” for not having solar power up. Well, we recently witnessed that solar panels were blocked in the Mojave desert and it was not “big oil” that stopped it. When it comes down to it, it is environmentalists that block most projects that I have seen.
Why do you think that is???
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Ron Rutherford March 17th, 2010, 12:39 pm - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Thom,
You keep saying “Cesar Chavez,” but I think you mean “Hugo.” And he’s more “socialist” and “populist” than “terrorist.” He’s using Venezuela’s oil revenues to help the people.
And he is doing a lot to hurt the “people” in Venezuela. If he is not careful he will end up with another mess like Zimbabwe…
You do want a country like Zimbabwe, right Thom???
PS4: Thom,
Your report is incomplete, misleading, and, therefore, a lie. Here’s what he actually said: “Leave your church” if it “starts to preach social and economic justice, especially through the structure of a giant government.” He said “Social justice and economic justice are code words.” He was “referring to Jeremiah right’s type church, a Black Liberation Theology or Marxism or church that’s turned into a political arm.” He agreed with the idea “that Christians should not merely give to the poor but also work to correct unjust conditions that keep people poor.” He said this is what Jesus taught. And he said “Go find another parish”, not another church, and “Go alert your bishop.”
You can read his complete remarks at http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/37852/ I marvel at the ability liberals have to be consistently wrong.Exactly, and Thom just lives in his dream world devoid of reality as his minions scurry around to protect him from the truth. Just on Thom's there is a couple of lies pointed out and of course the usual suspects {rodeo clowns} had to pop out at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/board/./viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4000
Hey Thom, your NLP is quite blatant here as you somehow felt it important to add the adjective of “Mormon”. Well I suggest that if you want to add adjectives to people’s names then add “BLT believer” to Obama as in a counter argument: Barack Obama’s Black Liberation Theology
As far as “Faux news”, you certainly are one to throw rocks, right Thom?
Barack Obama's Black Liberation Theology
High Fructose corn syrup and partially hydrogenated oils too. If either of those are on the ingredients label, they don't go in my cart (most of the time, hard to convince the wife to give up all the crap).
Health "Insurance" vs. "Care" Reform
This morning, I heard Pres. Obama refer to this health reform legislation as "health INSURANCE reform." This is what I have been calling it for some time now, but this is the first time I've heard Obama call it what it is (tho, of course, there is not ENOUGH reform.)