"Two cops have been fired after being filmed brutally beating a suspect then doing a celebratory chest bump.
The shocking footage shows the officers holding the man down, punching him and kicking him in the head more than a dozen times.
As he lies motionless on the concrete the officers move away - and bump each other in the sick celebration." Source whatreallyhappened.com
One wonders if he were not just an armed patriot with trumped up charges against him. This happens all of the time.There are an astronomical number of people in jail who have had charges laid against them which were absolutely false.The so-call "Law" continues in carrying out death sentences against the innocent in order to stop all talk about who indeed was responsible for which crime.
This man looks like he was simply one of the Protesters, demanding his Constitutional Rights.The Police are becoming ever more sadistic and immoral, but it is their own souls which are at stake.They, in the end, alone, each one, will pay for what they do in debt to those whom they abuse.
If these actions as well as other actions of brutality do not draw the U.S. Military out in full force, then, perhaps boot camp did more damage to their souls than we suspect. These Policemen and Policewomen who compete with one another in these atrocities against the PEOPLES OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ARE NOT UNITED STATES POLICEMEN AND UNITED STATES POLICEWOMEN, RATHER THEY BELONG TO THOSE SAME ONES WHO SEND DEADLY DRONES TO BOMB THE PEOPLES OF THE NATIONS, AND THERE IS NO PATRIOTIC SPIRIT LEFT IN THEM. - Cygnus!
If you do not condone violence, you should not use it as an analogy. That is disgusting behavior dragging the Nazi's into the topic. Your "disclaimer" belies your true feelings.
Can Sirota possibly be more whiny about this Clinton thing? His premise is all wrong. He assumes that primary news organizations employ *any* journalists! She can't be any worse than what's already out there.
Palindromedary, no I did not see the 84 yr old lady on TV. I read about her on the internet. And speaking about killing 15 million more jobs, it seems someone is trying to kill somebody else, and that person being the President of these United States of America, foreign controlled as he is.
The police are acting no differently than the police in Israel against armless Palestinians, Watch the brutality also of the British police, and so on. All militarized police are controlled by the 1%. The PEOPLES need their MILITARY BACK TO MAKE THE POLICE BACK DOWN.
A man was arrested trying to shoot U.S. Foreign controlled President Obama. He had an Israel tatoo on himself as well as prayer beads. President Obama had been on the phone with French President Sarkozy and refuses to call an attack on Iran. - Cygnus1
"Sparking the concern of Russian diplomats over the growing totalitarian bent of the Obama government is the planned reintroduction of what these reports call one of the most draconian laws ever introduced in a free society that is titled “The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act”.
First introduced in the US Congress in 2007 by Democratic Representative Jane Harmon, this new law passed the US House of Representatives by a secretive voice vote, but failed to pass the US Senate, after which it was believed dead until this past week when it was embraced by Obama who became the first American President to name his own citizens as a threat to his Nations security."
Somehow, we do not think this is the foreign controlled U.S. President who is behind this, but he certainly will take the flack for it. When he compromised the White House chair before he took it, he should have stepped back and not disgraced his name, the name of his family, his nation, his brothers and sisters, and he would not have had so much blood on his hands due to the countless wars which continue escalating.
Fame of whom one is in this life does not often reach into the next life, but what you do in the fame of the last life will be looked at by the Akashic Council between lives and determine that which you will deal with in a future life. We are speaking here of those who have prominance on the world scene, whether to the positive or to the negative. - Cygnus1
The Balanced Budget Amendment.The idea to balance the budget comes from elected politicians, right? Andare they not usually the ones with the smallest of minds to understand how their country really works?How have the Peoples become to be an electorate to think that "elected chosen ones through the ballot box" really know what they are doing when they come up with thisridiculous idea of "balancing the budget"?
In contrast to politicians, who are for the most partignorant in understanding of the implications for fiscal decisions they wish to impose on the public, the1% know and understand exactly all aspects of policy disasters they are pushing for.We have an intelligence gap between the 1% and the politicians, although many politicians tend to migrate rather naturally into the camp of the rich.
BALANCING THE BUDGET and AUSTERITY are both clearly understood in nature and consequence to the general public by the 1%, and as both measures fall upon severe dentrimental consequences for the Peoples of these United States of America, the super rich fleecers of the public purse will push both measures on all political mindless ones.*
Let us explain, please, what we mean:
When government overspends, they sell bonds to the bank in return for money. At that time both are equal in value. But then the bank says: Butyou must pay us interest on the monies we lent you.The bought out politicians in government then say: okay! And who do they commit the debt to? THE TAXPAYERS!And when the cost to taxpayers for government selling bonds to the banks is tallied up after, say, 25 years, the cost of the bonds sold to banks 25 years ago have risen manyfold as a standing debt to the taxpayer BECAUSE OF INTEREST CHARGES ON THEM!
You may ask: What has that to do with "balancing the budget"?
EVERYTHING!Government and taxpayers have become the scape-goats of a banker's trick by agreeing to pay interest on brand-new money pumped into circulation by the banks, and"balancing the budget" will not replace the funds into the economy it needs for paying interest on the national debt!
The Peoples of these United States as well as the Peoples globally have permitted the banks to corner everyone into a situation whereUNLESS THE GOVERNMENT DEFICIT (OVERSPENDING) IS FED INTO CIRCULATION IN THE FORM OF REAL CASH IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE, THE MONEY SUPPLY WILL SHRINK TO WHERE WITHIN A FEW YEARS NO FUND WILL BE LEFT FOR THE PEOPLES TO DO BUSINESS WITH!!
Are not politicians criminally stupid? We think they are to even consider such a thing! What the Blue Dog Democrats are considering will just not work as a solution to the problems politicians created 200 years ago, when they copulated with British banks to permit the universal implementation of USURY against the hard-working peoples of this nation as well as the nations of the entire world.
*These politicians do not mind what is going on and with so many being bought out at the same time by the 1% and their Washington worker eyes, there is little hope any dramatic change will ever occur but the scene will get worse, a lot worse, before it even gets better if the military does not quickly step in. - Cygnus1
roseread, how did you get to be a proofreader? I'd love to have that job, but my lack of official credentials keeps me from getting anywhere near.
As for Chelsea Clinton, one's life can revolve around life experiences, sure, but to do a job right you need training and experience in that job. I can't say she's totally unqualified, but if people with much greater totals of training and experience were passed over for her, then it's wrong. It's like a legacy admission to a university. <cough> George Bush </cough>
On Pizza as a nutritious food? .....the person that claims that all of Italy "lives on tomato paste and pasta" isn't very aware that the Italians wouldn't be caught dead eating the "crap" that Americans call Italian food. Most of N. Italy doesnot eat pasta with tomato paste. Tomato paste is highly acidic and made from the dredges or the "debris" left over from processing whole tomatoes. It is over cooked to the point that is actually caused severe stomach and digestive irritation. American Italians have bastardized tomatoes by making it into paste and pizza and spaghetti. In Italy they only use the actual tomato to make their tomato dishes and do not use ketchup either. So a whole culture does not live on tomato paste.... The Italians I have lived with in the US only eat the "macaroni's" , and put butter on it not the nasty tomato paste, cause that irritates their stomach less, and they can drink more wine.
Chelsea Clinton is an educated person. While she may not have been educated as a journalist, she undoubtedly can write since she has advanced degrees. I was educated as a studio artist but I believe I can be a writer and journalist. Life experience 's are very important to journalism and an open viewpoint, She had to grow up in the white house and was schooled in D.C. during her elementary/secondary years. Similarily for my self, I could not find a job as a oil painter, instead I was hired as a librarian and a proofreader and since I had these experiences I was only able to get jobs in those areas, not in art studio. Our lives revolve around our life experiences and not just around the field we were educated to perform...we have to create our "employment positions" and I don't think they hired her for her "connections" anymore than they hired the bimbo on Fox News for their journalistic abilities. Rush Limbaugh doesn't even have an education or journalistic credentials and why is he doing what he does with credibility anymore than CHelsea can accommodate an employment position in an area that she is qualified to submit a viewpoint. For that matter does Joe Scarborough have a journalism degree or training? Does that mean they cannot do the work?
Cignus1: Did you see that 84 year old lady on TV whose face was blasted with mace? Poor thing! Man these gestapo pigs should be ashamed of themselves...beating up and macing old people...who know that they have no where else to turn but to demonstrate. It is a life or death situation for many people...and not just old people.
If it isn't the sound of their pensions burning maybe OWS will start a bonfire of their own and relieve some of these syphilitic-brained gestapo pigs from having to worry about their pensions...and throw the blue dogs on the pyre as well.
(disclaimer: the vivid and violent language in this blog entry is to be in no way interpreted as being literal, and is figuratively used--I do not condone violence...so how does one define violence? Is it violence when people are herded into a gas chamber? Is it violence when banksters herd people into poverty, hunger, no shelter, no medical care? ...all things that will precipitate the same end effects upon people worldwide as the Nazis herding people into the gas chambers...albeit done more slowly.)
Re pizza is a vegetable. I second the lady from the FDA who says there isn't enough tomato sauce/paste on a pizza to classify it as one serving of tomato. Also, the tomato paste/sauce used in a pizzeria is canned which is generally 50% sugar. I would classify a pizza as an artery clogger.
David Sirota went with the conventional wisdom that tomatoes aren't vegetables at all, and are actually fruits.
Well, in a botanical sense, tomatoes are fruit, but so are nuts, cucumbers, mustard and pine cones, because they are all seeds or seed-bearing parts that eventually fall off the plant.
But in a culinary sense, tomatoes are vegetables. No one would make tomato cobbler or tomato sorbet.
First, pizza is much more grain and dairy than vegetable. Second, the category of vegetable should probably be divided. It would be like putting "vertebrate" on a menu, rather than fish, fowl, pork or beef; it's not very informative.
Palindromedary, this is a good slogan for the police, especially FROM the police who join the OWS.
"One comment I read at that YouTube video that Cygnus1 recommended about the retired police Captain joining OWS...the comment said that "the police should wake up and smell their pensions burning." Maybe more OWS protesters should carry signs that says just that. It might make them think twice about who their real friends should be and who their real enemies are."
RT with Thom Hartmann and a helper newsstation www.presstv.ir give excellent coverage on the Wall Street Occupation. The police are accosting people in wheelchairs, 84 yr old people, and on the barbarism continues! Soon we have Amnesty International on the scene. A good Peoples to now contact for their voice and support. - Cygnus1
Very important matter. However, the info provided regarding states that ban corporal punishment is inaccurate, according to The Center for Effective Discipline website. It's 19 states that DON"T ban it in schools: http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=statesbanning Only Minnesota DOES ban corporal punishment at home, while most states ban it in other settings, such as child care centers: http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=statelegislation There's lots of other data on this issue at that website, too.
Most people don't understand how the banks lead people to not pay their bills but there is a lot more to all of this I guess. I disagree with the poster who suggests that everyone get involved in some sort of cyber-attack.
The casino games at an online casino are a lot of fun and sometime addicting but read this on why you should never use a bonus when it comes to winning money.
One comment I read at that YouTube video that Cygnus1 recommended about the retired police Captain joining OWS...the comment said that "the police should wake up and smell their pensions burning." Maybe more OWS protesters should carry signs that says just that. It might make them think twice about who their real friends should be and who their real enemies are.
Something is going on over the internet...it appears. Just try to do a bandwidth speed check when doing a test on Atlanta....speed way, way down.... while all the others, San Francisco, Dallas, LA, and the others are not so bad at all. Go to Speakeasy.com and check it out. I normally get about 4-5Mbps download speed and most of those nodes are showing 3-4Mbps...about right as people are starting to hit the sack. It usually goes up to about 5Mbps after about 1 or 2 am and is good for most of the business day...until people start getting out of school or out of work. Atlanta was down to about 200kbps download speed.
Agreed Gang has a no fault bail out plan. NO guts NO glory Cowards This was a joke from the get go .
Two cops fired over horrific video which shows them beating up suspect - then CELEBRATING
"Two cops have been fired after being filmed brutally beating a suspect then doing a celebratory chest bump.
The shocking footage shows the officers holding the man down, punching him and kicking him in the head more than a dozen times.
As he lies motionless on the concrete the officers move away - and bump each other in the sick celebration." Source whatreallyhappened.com
One wonders if he were not just an armed patriot with trumped up charges against him. This happens all of the time. There are an astronomical number of people in jail who have had charges laid against them which were absolutely false. The so-call "Law" continues in carrying out death sentences against the innocent in order to stop all talk about who indeed was responsible for which crime.
This man looks like he was simply one of the Protesters, demanding his Constitutional Rights. The Police are becoming ever more sadistic and immoral, but it is their own souls which are at stake. They, in the end, alone, each one, will pay for what they do in debt to those whom they abuse.
If these actions as well as other actions of brutality do not draw the U.S. Military out in full force, then, perhaps boot camp did more damage to their souls than we suspect. These Policemen and Policewomen who compete with one another in these atrocities against the PEOPLES OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ARE NOT UNITED STATES POLICEMEN AND UNITED STATES POLICEWOMEN, RATHER THEY BELONG TO THOSE SAME ONES WHO SEND DEADLY DRONES TO BOMB THE PEOPLES OF THE NATIONS, AND THERE IS NO PATRIOTIC SPIRIT LEFT IN THEM. - Cygnus!
Now, no one is to blame when the automatic cuts kick in. Convenient
No! It's all about lobbyist BRIBES! Call it what they will, it's BRIBES! Is a striped cow a zebra?
If you do not condone violence, you should not use it as an analogy. That is disgusting behavior dragging the Nazi's into the topic. Your "disclaimer" belies your true feelings.
The Atlas Shrugged DVD is being recalled because liner notes say it's about "self sacrifice". That was the big news.
Can Sirota possibly be more whiny about this Clinton thing? His premise is all wrong. He assumes that primary news organizations employ *any* journalists! She can't be any worse than what's already out there.
Palindromedary, no I did not see the 84 yr old lady on TV. I read about her on the internet. And speaking about killing 15 million more jobs, it seems someone is trying to kill somebody else, and that person being the President of these United States of America, foreign controlled as he is.
The police are acting no differently than the police in Israel against armless Palestinians, Watch the brutality also of the British police, and so on. All militarized police are controlled by the 1%. The PEOPLES need their MILITARY BACK TO MAKE THE POLICE BACK DOWN.
A man was arrested trying to shoot U.S. Foreign controlled President Obama. He had an Israel tatoo on himself as well as prayer beads. President Obama had been on the phone with French President Sarkozy and refuses to call an attack on Iran. - Cygnus1
Sarkozy calls Netanyahu a 'liar' in talks with Obama
NEXT:
New Law By Obama To Jail 500,000 American Citizens Or More For The Crime Of Opposing Their Government.
"Sparking the concern of Russian diplomats over the growing totalitarian bent of the Obama government is the planned reintroduction of what these reports call one of the most draconian laws ever introduced in a free society that is titled “The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act”.
First introduced in the US Congress in 2007 by Democratic Representative Jane Harmon, this new law passed the US House of Representatives by a secretive voice vote, but failed to pass the US Senate, after which it was believed dead until this past week when it was embraced by Obama who became the first American President to name his own citizens as a threat to his Nations security."
Somehow, we do not think this is the foreign controlled U.S. President who is behind this, but he certainly will take the flack for it. When he compromised the White House chair before he took it, he should have stepped back and not disgraced his name, the name of his family, his nation, his brothers and sisters, and he would not have had so much blood on his hands due to the countless wars which continue escalating.
Fame of whom one is in this life does not often reach into the next life, but what you do in the fame of the last life will be looked at by the Akashic Council between lives and determine that which you will deal with in a future life. We are speaking here of those who have prominance on the world scene, whether to the positive or to the negative. - Cygnus1
I never heard the thing about Ayn Rand. Did I miss it, or did Sirota forget to do it?
Thom and Louise, excellent topic.
The Balanced Budget Amendment. The idea to balance the budget comes from elected politicians, right? And are they not usually the ones with the smallest of minds to understand how their country really works? How have the Peoples become to be an electorate to think that "elected chosen ones through the ballot box" really know what they are doing when they come up with this ridiculous idea of "balancing the budget"?
In contrast to politicians, who are for the most part ignorant in understanding of the implications for fiscal decisions they wish to impose on the public, the 1% know and understand exactly all aspects of policy disasters they are pushing for. We have an intelligence gap between the 1% and the politicians, although many politicians tend to migrate rather naturally into the camp of the rich.
BALANCING THE BUDGET and AUSTERITY are both clearly understood in nature and consequence to the general public by the 1%, and as both measures fall upon severe dentrimental consequences for the Peoples of these United States of America, the super rich fleecers of the public purse will push both measures on all political mindless ones.*
Let us explain, please, what we mean:
When government overspends, they sell bonds to the bank in return for money. At that time both are equal in value. But then the bank says: But you must pay us interest on the monies we lent you. The bought out politicians in government then say: okay! And who do they commit the debt to? THE TAXPAYERS! And when the cost to taxpayers for government selling bonds to the banks is tallied up after, say, 25 years, the cost of the bonds sold to banks 25 years ago have risen manyfold as a standing debt to the taxpayer BECAUSE OF INTEREST CHARGES ON THEM!
You may ask: What has that to do with "balancing the budget"?
EVERYTHING! Government and taxpayers have become the scape-goats of a banker's trick by agreeing to pay interest on brand-new money pumped into circulation by the banks, and "balancing the budget" will not replace the funds into the economy it needs for paying interest on the national debt!
The Peoples of these United States as well as the Peoples globally have permitted the banks to corner everyone into a situation where UNLESS THE GOVERNMENT DEFICIT (OVERSPENDING) IS FED INTO CIRCULATION IN THE FORM OF REAL CASH IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE, THE MONEY SUPPLY WILL SHRINK TO WHERE WITHIN A FEW YEARS NO FUND WILL BE LEFT FOR THE PEOPLES TO DO BUSINESS WITH!!
Are not politicians criminally stupid? We think they are to even consider such a thing! What the Blue Dog Democrats are considering will just not work as a solution to the problems politicians created 200 years ago, when they copulated with British banks to permit the universal implementation of USURY against the hard-working peoples of this nation as well as the nations of the entire world.
*These politicians do not mind what is going on and with so many being bought out at the same time by the 1% and their Washington worker eyes, there is little hope any dramatic change will ever occur but the scene will get worse, a lot worse, before it even gets better if the military does not quickly step in. - Cygnus1
roseread, how did you get to be a proofreader? I'd love to have that job, but my lack of official credentials keeps me from getting anywhere near.
As for Chelsea Clinton, one's life can revolve around life experiences, sure, but to do a job right you need training and experience in that job. I can't say she's totally unqualified, but if people with much greater totals of training and experience were passed over for her, then it's wrong. It's like a legacy admission to a university. <cough> George Bush </cough>
On Pizza as a nutritious food? .....the person that claims that all of Italy "lives on tomato paste and pasta" isn't very aware that the Italians wouldn't be caught dead eating the "crap" that Americans call Italian food. Most of N. Italy doesnot eat pasta with tomato paste. Tomato paste is highly acidic and made from the dredges or the "debris" left over from processing whole tomatoes. It is over cooked to the point that is actually caused severe stomach and digestive irritation. American Italians have bastardized tomatoes by making it into paste and pizza and spaghetti. In Italy they only use the actual tomato to make their tomato dishes and do not use ketchup either. So a whole culture does not live on tomato paste.... The Italians I have lived with in the US only eat the "macaroni's" , and put butter on it not the nasty tomato paste, cause that irritates their stomach less, and they can drink more wine.
Chelsea Clinton is an educated person. While she may not have been educated as a journalist, she undoubtedly can write since she has advanced degrees. I was educated as a studio artist but I believe I can be a writer and journalist. Life experience 's are very important to journalism and an open viewpoint, She had to grow up in the white house and was schooled in D.C. during her elementary/secondary years. Similarily for my self, I could not find a job as a oil painter, instead I was hired as a librarian and a proofreader and since I had these experiences I was only able to get jobs in those areas, not in art studio. Our lives revolve around our life experiences and not just around the field we were educated to perform...we have to create our "employment positions" and I don't think they hired her for her "connections" anymore than they hired the bimbo on Fox News for their journalistic abilities. Rush Limbaugh doesn't even have an education or journalistic credentials and why is he doing what he does with credibility anymore than CHelsea can accommodate an employment position in an area that she is qualified to submit a viewpoint. For that matter does Joe Scarborough have a journalism degree or training? Does that mean they cannot do the work?
Cignus1: Did you see that 84 year old lady on TV whose face was blasted with mace? Poor thing! Man these gestapo pigs should be ashamed of themselves...beating up and macing old people...who know that they have no where else to turn but to demonstrate. It is a life or death situation for many people...and not just old people.
If it isn't the sound of their pensions burning maybe OWS will start a bonfire of their own and relieve some of these syphilitic-brained gestapo pigs from having to worry about their pensions...and throw the blue dogs on the pyre as well.
(disclaimer: the vivid and violent language in this blog entry is to be in no way interpreted as being literal, and is figuratively used--I do not condone violence...so how does one define violence? Is it violence when people are herded into a gas chamber? Is it violence when banksters herd people into poverty, hunger, no shelter, no medical care? ...all things that will precipitate the same end effects upon people worldwide as the Nazis herding people into the gas chambers...albeit done more slowly.)
Re pizza is a vegetable. I second the lady from the FDA who says there isn't enough tomato sauce/paste on a pizza to classify it as one serving of tomato. Also, the tomato paste/sauce used in a pizzeria is canned which is generally 50% sugar. I would classify a pizza as an artery clogger.
Many years ago either Congress or the Supreme Court ruled the tomato is a vegetable.
David Sirota went with the conventional wisdom that tomatoes aren't vegetables at all, and are actually fruits.
Well, in a botanical sense, tomatoes are fruit, but so are nuts, cucumbers, mustard and pine cones, because they are all seeds or seed-bearing parts that eventually fall off the plant.
But in a culinary sense, tomatoes are vegetables. No one would make tomato cobbler or tomato sorbet.
First, pizza is much more grain and dairy than vegetable. Second, the category of vegetable should probably be divided. It would be like putting "vertebrate" on a menu, rather than fish, fowl, pork or beef; it's not very informative.
CORPORATE BANKSTERS
PLAY MONOPOLY WITH YOUR MONEY
CORPORATE BANKSTERS
2BIG
2FAIL
2BIG
2JAIL?
Palindromedary, this is a good slogan for the police, especially FROM the police who join the OWS.
"One comment I read at that YouTube video that Cygnus1 recommended about the retired police Captain joining OWS...the comment said that "the police should wake up and smell their pensions burning." Maybe more OWS protesters should carry signs that says just that. It might make them think twice about who their real friends should be and who their real enemies are."
Retired Police Capt Slams NYPD Conduct - "Disgusting," "Totally Uncalled For" - Joins OWS
RT with Thom Hartmann and a helper newsstation www.presstv.ir give excellent coverage on the Wall Street Occupation. The police are accosting people in wheelchairs, 84 yr old people, and on the barbarism continues! Soon we have Amnesty International on the scene. A good Peoples to now contact for their voice and support. - Cygnus1
Very important matter. However, the info provided regarding states that ban corporal punishment is inaccurate, according to The Center for Effective Discipline website. It's 19 states that DON"T ban it in schools: http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=statesbanning Only Minnesota DOES ban corporal punishment at home, while most states ban it in other settings, such as child care centers: http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=statelegislation There's lots of other data on this issue at that website, too.
CORPORATE BANKSTERS
PLAY MONOPOLY
WITH YOUR MONEY
CORPORATE BANKSTERS
2BIG
2FAIL
2BIG
2JAIL?
Most people don't understand how the banks lead people to not pay their bills but there is a lot more to all of this I guess. I disagree with the poster who suggests that everyone get involved in some sort of cyber-attack.
The casino games at an online casino are a lot of fun and sometime addicting but read this on why you should never use a bonus when it comes to winning money.
One comment I read at that YouTube video that Cygnus1 recommended about the retired police Captain joining OWS...the comment said that "the police should wake up and smell their pensions burning." Maybe more OWS protesters should carry signs that says just that. It might make them think twice about who their real friends should be and who their real enemies are.
Something is going on over the internet...it appears. Just try to do a bandwidth speed check when doing a test on Atlanta....speed way, way down.... while all the others, San Francisco, Dallas, LA, and the others are not so bad at all. Go to Speakeasy.com and check it out. I normally get about 4-5Mbps download speed and most of those nodes are showing 3-4Mbps...about right as people are starting to hit the sack. It usually goes up to about 5Mbps after about 1 or 2 am and is good for most of the business day...until people start getting out of school or out of work. Atlanta was down to about 200kbps download speed.