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Occupy Wall Street: NYPD raid on camp in Zuccotti park.
...where most of the media were forbidden to tape the proceedings. - Cygnus1
Occupy Wall Street: NYPD raid on camp in Zuccotti park
Peoples of these United States, your brothers and sisters around the World including in Palestine want you to know they STAND WITH YOU IN A ONENESS OF UNITY. - Cygnus1
7 arrested after boarding Israeli bus
"Palestinian activists boarded Israeli settler buses Tuesday in an action inspired by the American civil rights movement which resulted in several arrests.
The activists headed toward the Kohav Yakov and Psagot settlement bus stops and boarded a bus for Jerusalem. Israeli forces stopped the bus on the Hizma checkpoint and prevented it from entering Jerusalem.
Settlers left the bus while it was searched and the activists were removed and arrested. As many as seven were reported to have been arrested by late Tuesday." end quote. source whatreallyhappened.com, both links.
I remember the days when it was especially bad in the south. Black students could not ride the same bus as the white students. This is no different. Same strategy. Our strength will be in the unifying of ONE PEOPLES WORLD WIDE TOGETHER, WITH ALL SECTORS OF THE PUBLIC WORKING IN UNISON; SOME PROTECTING, SOME CLOTHING, SOME FEEDING, SOME RELAYING INFORMATION AND SO ON. LET US TOGETHER BREAK DOWN THE WALL WHICH FORCES A DIVISION BETWEEN THE VERY WEALTHY AND THE 99%. THE PALESTINIANS HAVE THEIR WALL, AND WE HAVE OURS. BUT WE ARE ONE IN THE OVERALL PICTURE AND AS ONE WE WILL WIN OUR PARADISE BACK! - Cygnus1
I did read it, and I resent your tone. My first comment didn't mention liberty, citizenship, the Constitution, rights, corporations, insurance companies or banks. So I'm confused as to why you put up your comment as a reply to it.
The best supporting research IMO on this is by psychologist/author Alice Miller: "For Your Own Good," and many other excellent books. Obedience based on fear only engenders rage...and there you have a terrible vicious cycle.
The "Split Estate" fracking documentary is lesser known than GasLand but a very important film also. See: http://SplitEstate.com
Made before GasLand, it's a must see for anyone concerned about hydraulic fracturing. It shows the terrible health effects on people and animals and also focuses on the Split Estate law that enables fracking on private property without the owners' consent.
We showed "Split Estate" at our monthly Free Movie Night at the Whittier Area Peace and Justice Coalition a couple of years ago. (WhittierPeace.org)
I hope you can get the filmmakers on your show.
They just made the massive OWS movement even massiver (I know that's not a real word :) )
there is a court order now allowing all protesters back in the park...with belonging...update via Reddit
Just hope they will Man no promise's
That letter from the Oakland Police Officers Association to the Citizens of Oakland sounds to me like the Police would be just happy as pig in sh!t if they could butt heads with the blessing of Mayor Quan (who would take the heat and blame off of the police Captains) and are disappointed that she is being so irresolute and too much like a quavering and undecided politician. I can understand the dilemma of the Police as they have no solid direction in which to pursue... due to a quaking politician caught between the will of the majority of the people and the minority of her more wealthy puppet masters...Oakland's ruling elite. The cops are caught in the middle. It's tough being cop, huh? Well, at least THEY have jobs..for now..until the mayor decides to lay them off. When they've squeezed the last bleeding nickel out of the 99% in taxes they will still have a budget deficit and an inability to pay their police and the 1% will still not want to pay their fair share of the taxes.
The heavily repeated phrase of the Nazis during the Nuremburg Trials was that "I was just following orders". And we high mindedly responded with something like "Just following orders is no excuse for committing criminal actions". No lowly peon can get away with that in any court of law. But I hear that phrase from time to time coming from powerful men who should know better...but they seem to be able to use it effectively. Of course, if you have a lawyer like John Yoo and a stacked Supreme Court you can order underlings to commit crimes and they can get away with saying they were just following orders. US soldiers can commit wholesale murder of civilians and claim they were just following orders. So if Mayor Quan orders the police to crack heads.....the police will say they were just following orders. But these people...always never commit themselves and seek plausible deniability.
Palindromedary, we have made a few revisions on the posting to the Oakland police. It may be a good idea if you were to reread it. - Cygnus1
Cygnus1: Well, if what you say is a likely scenario then that would be great. I do not advocate outright violence but I am just pointing out that change has never really ever happened without it. It starts peaceful, perhaps, and it may bug some higher up on the ladder but will never really reach the actual ruling elite. Of course, just the entry of the military into the equation shows a force of violence...or potential violence...if the ruling elite does not change their ways.
Do you think that the people of Libya would be rid of Gadafi, or Egypt of Mubarak were it not for a show of violence? Whether Gadafi or Mubarak were good or bad for the people it still took violence to make change (good or bad).
Yes, the violence comes, initially, as in when the governments try to suppress the demonstrations.....like when our cops crack heads and sprays tear gas into the faces of demonstrators. If this gets into the media, it creates a sense of police brutality and may win over minds who might decide to vote differently...or not at all...or they may join in the demonstrations. But what have the ruling elite lost? Their lowly peons (the cops) are doing all the grunt work and will, perhaps one day, get taken to task for what they have done. But nothing will change. The same old bought off lying politicians will still be doing their trickery for their bosses and the public may tire out and accept their miserable plight.
I don't think Americans have the stomach, anymore anyway, for much violence. Perhaps they are not yet in such dire straights (as many were in the later 1800s and early 1900s that led to violent actions) that they are desperate enough to act out of desperation. But that could very well change as our condition worsens..when people start needlessly losing loved ones from lack of medical attention..or having to freeze without shelter...or having no food to eat...as it surely will...unless things are done to alleviate the problem.
Under the existing corrupt exploitative and heartless system we cannot but get far worse off than we are now. Such a heartless and greedy system is what led to the uprisings and violence of anarchists in our history. No rich man really cared until he was afraid for his well being or that of his family. At first, they used all the muscle they had in propaganda...calling them anarchists, communists, bolsheviks, and any other name they could think of.
As the movie J. Edgar showed...that the people were so enamored of the infamous criminals like Bugsy Segal and John Dillenger that they cheered for them in the movies and booed law enforcement. J Edgar used Hollywood and the threat of the anti-communist witch hunt paranoia to influence actors and producers to make movies as propaganda to turn that around.
They put little G-man badges in boxes of Post Toasties and used all manner of propaganda on impressionable young minds. Eventually, however, there was little difference between the good guys and the bad guys (as government colluded and conspired with underworld figures) in reality but in the movies the illusion played on. We live under such illusions today...rather, perhaps, not so much anymore...many people are waking up and seeing how things really are. I think that organized crime just got so big that it took over the country.
To the Oakland Police Department who wrote this open letter to the residents of the City of Oakland:
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OccupyOMC Extends Gratitude For The Honorable Police Officers Speaking Up For What Is Right. We Support The Police Officers Ensuring The Continued Protection Of American Citizens. Semper Fi Oakland Police Officer’s Association, We Support You. Please Review The Following:
An Open Letter to the Citizens of Oakland from the Oakland Police Officers’ Association
1 November 2011 – Oakland, Ca.
We represent the 645 police officers who work hard every day to protect the citizens of Oakland. We, too, are the 99% fighting for better working conditions, fair treatment and the ability to provide a living for our children and families. We are severely understaffed with many City beats remaining unprotected by police during the day and evening hours.
As your police officers, we are confused.
On Tuesday, October 25th, we were ordered by Mayor Quan to clear out the encampments at Frank Ogawa Plaza and to keep protesters out of the Plaza. We performed the job that the Mayor’s Administration asked us to do, being fully aware that past protests in Oakland have resulted in rioting, violence and destruction of property.
Then, on Wednesday, October 26th, the Mayor allowed protesters back in – to camp out at the very place they were evacuated from the day before.
To add to the confusion, the Administration issued a memo on Friday, October 28th to all City workers in support of the “Stop Work” strike scheduled for Wednesday, giving all employees, except for police officers, permission to take the day off.
That’s hundreds of City workers encouraged to take off work to participate in the protest against “the establishment.” But aren’t the Mayor and her Administration part of the establishment they are paying City employees to protest? Is it the City’s intention to have City employees on both sides of a skirmish line?
It is all very confusing to us.
Meanwhile, a message has been sent to all police officers: Everyone, including those who have the day off, must show up for work on Wednesday. This is also being paid for by Oakland taxpayers. Last week’s events alone cost Oakland taxpayers over $1 million.
The Mayor and her Administration are beefing up police presence for Wednesday’s work strike they are encouraging and even “staffing,” spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars for additional police presence – at a time when the Mayor is also asking Oakland residents to vote on an $80 parcel tax to bail out the City’s failing finances.
All of these mixed messages are confusing.
We love Oakland and just want to do our jobs to protect Oakland residents. We respectfully ask the citizens of Oakland to join us in demanding that our City officials, including Mayor Quan, make sound decisions and take responsibility for these decisions. Oakland is struggling – we need real leaders NOW who will step up and lead – not send mixed messages. Thank you for listening.
http://www.opoa.org/uncategorized/an-open-letter-to-the-citizens-of-oakland-from-the-oakland-police-officers%E2%80%99-association/
We Support You America, Keep Pushing Forward
OccupyOMC
Semper Occupare " end quote
Thank you for your letter to the Peoples of Oakland. This letter, will in time become contemporary throughout these United States of America. We serve you, as you serve the People.
1. Let the attitude of all law enforcement members, assigned to protesters, be one of sympathy and cooperation with the goals and aspirations of the peoples who are hardshipping themselves by marching and camping-out for just the purpose of sending a message of their grievances and discontent to the foreign backed government sitting illegally in Washington, D.C. and their representatives, who have lorded it over these, the peoples, with degradation to the near-destruction of the livelihoods of the majority. This sympathy for the peoples will prevent the officers from clubbing, arresting, or tear-gassing any protester who behaves in an orderly, disciplined manner.
2. The law enforcement officers should verbally and by other means announce to the people, that they have been sent TO PROTECT THEM on the condition that the protesters will not become unruly towards the officers, or set vehicles on fire, or smash store front windows, or throw molotov cocktails at them, or otherwise riot in a mob-like fashion. There needs to be a trust established between the protesters and the uniformed officers, where both recognize each other as FRIENDS!
3. Officers are trained to obey orders coming from their superiors. They are also trained to enforce laws and regulations. In addition to that, they must now learn to fully understand the RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLES IN DEMONSTRATING AS IS GUARANTEED IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND FOR THE PEOPLES TO MAKE THEIR COMPLAINTS KNOWN IN PUBLIC PLACES! Those rights must be understood as BASIC belonging to the peoples, and that there CANNOT BE ANY REGULATION ISSUED BY THE MAYOR NOR ANY OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICIALS OVERRIDING THOSE BASIC RIGHTS.
When all officers can discern the difference here, then, both protesters as well as "officers upholding the law" will understand where the rights and limits for both parties lie. Should instructions from their own superiors be infringing upon those elements of mutual understanding be given to the officers, THE LATTER THEN MUST LET THEIR SUPERIORS KNOW IN UNEQUIVOCAL TERMS, THAT SUCH ORDERS WILL NOT BE OBEYED! Where all police forces abide by these basic rules of understanding, no line of authority will be able to interfere with the police's basic function of protecting the people.
4. Having established consensus between the protesters and the police in how to proceed from here on out, we advise the police authorities, that for the protection of the people's sake, the Peoples own Military of these United States of America should do the same, and that a communication line between the police and the military be established nation-wide. That will guarantee, that at no time, and for the duration of such public expression of discontent, the Military will interfere at the expense of objectives the 99% are raising, but rather will continue in protecting these, the PEOPLES OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
5. With the Military on side of the people and firmly established, a solid front will have been formed to assure that "Paradise" can be propelled within credible reach of these peoples of these United States of America, and hopefully, eventually, Worldwide.
When all is in place and a "community effort" of the entire United States of America has stepped up to the plate and marching to the same tune, then the next step will be done and the system finally changed and brought to a peaceful conclusion WITHOUT FURTHER BLOODSHED such as happened to Scott Olson.
And most of all, Oakland Police, never let your superiors, no matter how high up the ladder they are, to take away your humanity as the U.S. foreign controlled Military does to their new recruits in order to prepare them to do to others that which they would normally never think to do to any man, woman, nor child, given their own conscience at work.
And remember, you have a force to join with and that is the Occupying Military. You, the Police, the Peoples of the Occupation and the Occupying Military. You are, therefore, well on your way. We are with you all. Good day. - Cygnus1
Extenuating Circumstances:
Remember, the rights of the Peoples of these United States of America override the laws of the criminal 1% who take the economics of a Nation to be their own property. If the peoples of the land occupy places where the 1% and their worker eyes live, this is to be only seen as the peoples wanting to place citizen's arrest upon these individuals who have broken every law in the land of these United States of America. These arrested people (1% and their worker eyes) will not be taken before ordinary courts with their high priced bought out lawyers because no judge will convict them. The 1% and their worker eyes will be removed at a later date to the concentration camps where they will then be brought before a council who will see their crimes in light of Universal Law and Principle. The elite keep others in prison without trial, so they can then wait for theirs under the system which belong to the Peoples of these United States of America - the system of Paradise. The elite and their worker eyes DENY OTHERS THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, SO THEY FOR A SHORT SPACE OF TIME WILL BE DENIED THEIRS. The 1% and their worker eyes have tried the PEOPLES under their system of so-called Justice, so now We, THE PEOPLE, will try them under OURS! The tables will have turned.
The bankers right of access to foreclose the houses of the Peoples of these United States of America need to be barred because it is against the Constitution of the United States, the Principle of true law of the Universe, to use a money trick to rip the Peoples security away from them, leaving the Peoples homeless due to a criminal 1% and their wickedness and greed! Because it is AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION the POLICE do not need to serve the whims of the bankers nor their corrupt Mayors nor any other of their worker eyes who leave the Peoples of the Land, penniless and destitute out in the cold IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER OR IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER! - Cygnus1
Well don't think for a minute it will lie down either, they have a lot of money to protect their money with.
Palindromedary, I know what you are saying about "peaceful protests." Bear in mind though, that strategy is at play. The elite or 1% and their worker eyes will not be laughing, but trembling when the Military and Police force (if they are wise) take the side of the peoples, and protect the people against their brutality and calculated coldness. Then the Military and Police will freely arrest the 1% and their worker eyes, sending them off to the concentration camps which they built for the people they so despise. We try to forment this revolution in such a way as little bloodshed encapsulates the people making their suffering even greater. But should this not come to pass in time, we also know what next to do, and having a workable and sensible strategy is definately half the battle. - Cygnus1
Palindromedary, everything you have said about Saudi Arabia is correct. Keep in mind that as the now King of Saudi Arabia said to me one day, "I am not bulletproof," in relation to a question why the American military are still sitting on Saudi Land. He is a good King and hates with a passion the atrocities against Palestine. Yet there is the situation in Bahrain, and the Saudi Government is worried about a Shiite uprising in Saudi Arabia, formented by the Shiites in both Bahrain as well as in Yemen. Watch the Ayatollah of Iran. It is unseeming that the President of Iran should befriend the King of Saudi Arabia while the Ayatollah who has the final word should work toward the opposite. Saudi Arabia is really caught there between a rock and a hard place, yet what you say is definately true.
The Arab spring has for the most part begun in earnest as a revolution mirrored after President Gamel Abdel Nasser, of Egypt. This is where the revolution and its beginnings actually kicked off. It took quite a while but eventually it took flight and soured. The revolutionary idea for the Arab spring did not start in Tunesia.
The Arab spring revolution of Egypt and the Middle East had nothing whatsoever to do with the uprising in Libya. Those people are plain thugs who wish nothing more than a power base for their tribal regions. Caring about the Peoples of Libya is really none of their concern.
After the Arab revolution began marching in earnest, infiltrators began influencing the peoples with promises of power and money, if only they would sell out to the west, and at the same time these foreign infiltrators such as Xe (Peter Ackerman's group, International Center On Non-Violent Conflict, I am not familiar with) mingle in with the protesters, shooting them. These Xe are dressed in the uniforms of the police and military of whichever nation they are in and the protesters do not know the difference so they blame their own government and military, When things get out of hand then the Military kicks in trying to calm things down, but the infiltrators become even more aggressive and that is when all hell breaks loose.
Since, His Excellency Amre Moussa, is no longer Secretary General of the Arab League, and gave up his chair, so to speak, the Arab League placing Nabil Elaraby in his place, I can tell you that the Arab League which is little more than a talk shop anyway, has been severely compromised by the west. Rather it has allowed itself to be compromised and has turned into a League of Hypocrites.
His Excellency, Amre Moussa is one of the finest men I have ever known to benefit the Arab world in honesty, integrety and fairness, albeit he really had no power.
As for usury, it does not exist upon other higher developed worlds which retain the right of Paradise for themselves, and for as long as people continue in breaking this universal law and principle, they continue in bringing chaos upon their heads and the heads of their nations. - Cygnus1
The only thing problematic about "keeping it peaceful" is that the purpose of "keeping it peaceful" is to win the hearts and minds of the majority of the people who will turn their actions into votes. Problem is that our system is so corrupt that voting no longer matters...nor does it work in the interest of the people. And besides, the majority of the people are already on the side of the protesters. What has worked in the past is when the masses begin to hit back. This scares the bejesus out of the ruling elite and convinces them that if they don't want howling angry mobs lopping off their heads one day they had better stop being such selfish bullies themselves.
Jesus, Gandhi, and MLK may have made their marks in history once (if we can believe in the current popular myths about these characters...after all, much of what we have been taught about a lot of things have been manipulated by those who control the presses and other media.)...but what may have been downplayed is how important it was to have violent rebellion as a threat to organized selfishness and corruption.
We may eulogize and praise MLK for being a man of peace, because that is how the ruling elite wants everyone to act...peaceful...not making any really big waves or problems for the ruling elite. That's how the Romans wanted to keep people from seriously challenging the Roman Empire...make their Savior a man of peace..like a lamb...so everyone can feel Christ-like by turning their other cheek...while the bankster ruling elite laugh all the way to their off-shore accounts.
We don't have a national day of celebrating Malcom-X but I think that he was highly instrumental in scaring the bejesus out of the bully boys. And that is why we don't have a Malcom-X holiday...perhaps. The ruling elite control the presses and the media and have painted the psyche of how we the masses must conduct ourselves...so long as it doesn't seriously challenge the status quo.
Now that the Communist system has fallen, and Russia was drastically further weakened by its failed experiment in capitalism run by Goldman Sachs(also behind the Greek problems today), there is no competing ideology to challenge capitalism. The American capitalists were able to paint Emma Goldman, and all the others, into radical communist agitators and many "lambs" believed them and feared them even though the same greedy capitalists that screwed them was the impetus behind such "radicals".
A Message from Scott Olson to these, the Peoples of these United States of America - Cygnus1
Anonymous message to Scott Olson of Occupy Oakland
Good stuff, Cygnus1! I agree with what you said. Actually, I believe that it is kind of a Muslim belief that charging anyone interest on loans are considered usary and against Islam. Totally 180 degrees out from Jewish belief...I believe. I may not agree with some things they do in some Muslim countries but they do have some very different rules. And who are we to say they are wrong? It is their culture...but unfortunately, there are those in non-Muslim countries...like the west...that cannot seem to stand that they do things differently. So, the west tries to get them to conform to our ideas, beliefs, and laws. It would make it easier for us to exploit them, for one thing...get and control their oil and natural resources.
But such countries like Saudi Arabia are undergoing a lot of "westernization", as I am sure other Muslim countries are as well, partly because of the influences of western workers. I ran across this "wikileaks" story about Saudi Arabia and it brought back memories of when I was there in the early 80s. Come to think of it...I believe that I read somewhere that it was a wikileaks story about corruption or something in Qadaffi's Libya that helped start the "revolution".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-cables-saudi-princ...
This story told about how, contrary to Saudi tradition and law, the young and affluent Saudis have held very big parties where they had lots of booze called saddiqi and prostitutes.
I remember the local expatriate brew called "sadiqi" (in Arabic means: my friend). It was highly illegal and anyone caught would be harshly dealt with...but the foreign workers (US, British and many other nationalities) would have stills in their closets...and make saddiqi (moonshine). They would also take the bottled grape juice and ferment it into wine. I never attended one of these large parties (only a small Christmas party where they served Sadiqi). I had heard rumors of the more well to do and influential Princes importing their own liquor cabinets.
So, there are the wealthy and privileged who want all the titillating things that the western countries have, and the poorer subjected classes...the ones who have been propagandized in their conservative religions and even held oppressed by the hypocrite ruling classes by using that religion as a tool of oppression...while breaking all the rules themselves. And eventually, the masses rebel..especially if they get a lot of help from those in the west who have a vested interest in overthrowing their puppets who are themselves getting a little too uppity.
The CIA has long been in that business of overthrowing governments of dictators that no longer do our bidding...or of duly elected Presidents that will not be a US puppet. And, of course, the CIA has earned a very disreputable name over the years for this...so if they can, like the military...farm out the dirty deeds to others that would possibly both avoid prosecution and/or "take the heat" one day...if they are ever discovered...then the military or government can escape scrutiny through plausible deniability.
Blackwater, (now called Xe), can get away with atrocities and keep the military from soiling their "good name?". And the CIA can use such groups as Peter Ackerman's group, International Center On Non-Violent Conflict, to train and foment dissention from within the country we want to overthrow. Did this happen in Arab Spring?
I think one "problem" regarding supposed violence within the Occupy movement is a lack of historical know how. To make the movement successful, it would help if more on the ground understood the methods used in the past and how to handle provacatours in the crowd who would turn the protests violent. I am thinking of the Civil Rights movements, labor movements, womens movements, anti-war movement etc. They all had to deal with both inside agitators and outside forces, such as riot police, as well as an unsympathetic media in many cases. I do however think that for the most part, the protests and occupations have been peaceful and sincerely hope those who have experienced violence, from inside and out, work even harder to insure the movement remains peaceful. I wish nothing but the success of the Occupiers and as a 99%'er, appreciate those on the ground who are doing what many of wish we could, but for whatever reasons, can't.
Thom, you keep saying that we elected Obama and a Democratic Congress then stood back to wait for them to do what we wanted them to do. That is absolutely not true. Obama had a website before he was inaugerated asking us to vote for the one issue we wanted him to deal with as soon as he was in the Oval Office; the winner by a mile was "investigate Bush/Cheney for their crimes." As soon as Obama was in the Oval Office he said that investigating Bush/ Cheney was off the table. We barely had time to catch our breath before he surrounded himself with Goldman Sachs criminals who had caused the economic mess we are in. He said AT&T spying on Americans was okay with him. He bailed out Wall Street and INSISTED CEOs get their huge bonuses. He ignored single payer and the public option and pushed for a health insurance bill written by the health insurance industry He gave no-bid contracts to Halliburton and Blackwater. Meanwhile, me and my fellow environmental activists began fighting the White House almost immediately when he began pandering to the oil and coal industry to the detriment of public health and the environment. None of us stood back and hoped for the best. We immediately were reeling from the abuse we were getting from a supposed Democrat President. We were no longer surprised as he campaigned for right-wing Democrats against Progressives in the Congressional election. Today I read in Vanity Fair that the Murdochs, owners of Fox News, hosted a 2008 fundraiser for Obama. Think he doesn't want to be one of them? Think they didn't want something from him? Think their support won't pay off in a lack of investigation into their crimes by Obama's corporatist Attorney General? Now, today the coup de gras: Obama wants to give $433 million dollars to Big Pharma for a smallpox drug. Hello? There is no smallpox. It does not exist. But Big Pharma could very well bring it back with their drug. When David Axelrod took on a million dollar Big Pharma job about a year ago I expected there to be a payoff for them. And here it is. I expect there will be many more in the future. No, Thom, we did not sit back and hope that Obama would do what he promised during his campaign. He wasted no time in disabusing us of that notion and we have been fighting him ever since. In the next Presidential election we won't even have the opportunity to vote for a Democrat. All we will have are two Republicans; one pathetic loser without a chance of winning and the billionaires choice, a man sneaky enough to convince people he is a Democrat while he destroys everything we stand for.
Jimi was a sweetheart of a guy. He went astray as many do but he had his mind together and he used it. I have been a major fan since 1967.
We need Teddy Roosevelt.
It's all because the transgressors have more money than the government, no matter how they got it, there is still the legal process of proving your case and prosecuting it and lawyers are cheaper than going to jail.
Compare this to the parabel about the impoverished woman putting her few coins in the collection plate as tithe to God, while the wealthy man who put in so much more has not contributed as much as she. It means something to her, while the rich man does it for show. These biblical stories are there for a reason.
Watching Perry crash and burn is a big nothing. He is not a threat, he's just a boob. The threat is the applause when Bachmann and Cain say we should go back to torture. They are the self proclaimed and out-spoken "Christians" in the panel of clowns...my Facebook question today was: "Who would Jesus torture?" We don't want to take a step back here folks, we want to take a step forward into the new Dark Ages where every corporation and zygote has rights far beyond the working, civilization supporting drones. Yes! The American Inquisition!! We want to beat answers that we want to hear out of people who don't know why we are beating them, then use their confession to justify spending 100's of billions of dollars on a fabricated war paid for and fought by the drones. The threat is that ANYBODY applauds these people, it can only be because they are socially isolated and believe the lies. This country is so brittle right now that the snap of a twig can ignite a firestorm and nobody will listen to opposing ideas. I pray for peace but I ready for conflagration.
One thing homeless people, perhaps those who were forced out of their homes by the banks, should do is re-inhabit the hundreds of thousands of vacant buildings....and stay there as long as they can...got to be better than living in your car or under an overpass. If everyone did this..that needed shelter...the Police would be run ragged trying to (re)evict them. Many times the banks don't even know who "owns" what...they can't even produce the originating loan agreements.